Friends, I've been lurking on this discussion, and been having my curiosity piqued. A collateral question formed in my alleged brain. I know about pitch raises, I just finished one. (Details below) I know from previous threads that some tuners charge a per cent surcharge for pitch raises - some beginning at 2¢. The piano which I just tuned (1971 Yamaha P2E) had (according to RCT) a pitch of 440.4Hz @ A4. This is just less than 2¢. So, according to the above criterium, it should be a standard tuning. Right? HA! Wrong... Maybe if it were the Hamburg D which I tune every week. IT NEEDED A PITCH RAISE. The bass section was 8-23¢ flat, the first two plain unisons were -23¢ and -40¢ with the pitch getting to within 4¢ by about F4 and staying there until above the treble break where it went to a fairly constant -15/20¢. How you gonna charge for this? Average the cents deviation? Pick a note at random? Use a dartboard? Do you have to wait until you are done and _then_ show the customer the record of overpulls? Big pitch raises on those once-a-decade tunings are no-brainers. Where and (more importantly) _how_ do you draw the line? Conrad Conrad Hoffsommer - Music Technician Luther College, 700 College Dr., Decorah, Iowa 52101-1045 Vox-(563)-387-1204 // Fax (563)-387-1076(Dept.office) - People never grow up, they just learn how to act in public. -Bryan White
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