Stephen Birkett wrote: > John wrote: > >... This means that all of the effort taken to get the action even > >is wasted if the pianist plays with the pedal down. > > Do you really mean "down" in the above? I'm still curious to know > whether static balancing is supposed to be done with damper lifters > factored in or out. Come on guys... UW and DW have been done with the action out of the piano for a hundred years now. And as for Stanwoods measurements, since the individual levers are taken out of the context of the action to begin with I kinda think its a safe bet this is all done without taking into consideration the weight of the dampers. Adding that weight later and independant has been the way things have been done forever. But as I said in my last on this matter, Stanwood does provide a way of evening those weights out as well. > What John says above implies balancing is to be > done with the dampers factored IN, i.e. in the piano with the foot > off the pedal. Is this rule general, or optional, or did John mean > pedal UP in the sentence above? > I think what John was implying was that the Stanwood system is not worth bothering with. That seems to be the direction he goes with most of his comments relative to touchweight balance. As a by-product of that, he did point out something well known, but not much addressed in discussions about touch weight, namely the extra weight affect of the dampers. I think the reason for this (real concern) is that there seems to be a general tendancy by piano techs to avoid dampers to begin with, and secondly the grand damper system requires at least a minimum amount of force by the dampers to the strings, and more then that has tradtitionally been seen as a bad idea so the defacto range employed has been historically rather narrow. Springs havent been a big item in this connexion since Herz did away with them in Erards origional version. But by all means... dampers figure into the equation somewhere, and rather abrubtly too in most cases. > Stephen > -- RicB -- Richard Brekne RPT, N.P.T.F. UiB, Bergen, Norway mailto:rbrekne@broadpark.no http://home.broadpark.no/~rbrekne/ricmain.html http://www.hf.uib.no/grieg/personer/cv_RB.html
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