Pics for me also!!!!!! Terry Farrell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Newell" <gnewell@ameritech.net> To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 9:52 PM Subject: Re: Steinway O Ron, I'd love to see the pics! Personally I'd like to hear about the ordeal you had with S&S but the open list isn't perhaps the best place for that. Greg At 06:11 PM 6/10/2003, you wrote: >At 10:06 PM +0300 10/6/03, Calin Tantareanu wrote: >> >>. . . I am already impressed with its bass, which is damn good for a >>180cm piano. >>It's a really strong typically Seinway bass, you could even say rough ;-) > >Very likely! >>The only weird thing is, that contrary to what some people here say, the >>lowest A has a very long string (~140cm if I remember correctly, on a >>cantilever or apron bridge - what's the correct name?) and a very short >>backscale, yet it sounds good. >>What do you think? > >Yes it does have a 140 cm speaking length at A1 with a short back scale. > >While the instrument might seem to be performing well in the low bass, it >would be even better if the speaking length was 4 - 5 cm shorter with a >correspondingly increased back scale. > >Yamaha have included the same design shortcoming (from my perspective) in >their latest C3. They've gone from a speaking length of around 135 cm in >the previous 183 cm C3 models to around 140 cm in the latest 185 cm >version, with a much shorter back scale. For those of you with the >opportunity to do A-B comparisons between the current and older versions >of the C3, there is no contest. The latest might have the biggest numbers >for the sales people to talk about, but what's the use since it doesn't speak? > >Same deal with suspended or apron bridges. The inclusion of these in any >piano demonstrates that the designer hasn't been paying attention to >what's coming in via the ears. The O is an ideal piano to ditch the >suspended bridge and undercut a couple of notes, since it has a >straightish bass bridge (the 'hockey stick' style bass bridges don't >respond quite as well to the undercut). The last couple of low notes could >be undercut where the bridge meets the sound board panel without any >problems, apart from a considerable tonal improvement. > >The front duplexes are also very long on this model. If I were doing the >repair I would cut them out with an angle grinder, fill the 'valleys' with >body filler and make up a new set of bars, hardening them, tapering the >height of each to achieve a uniform string approach angle and positioning >them to detune the front length while making them as short as possible >(but talk to the client first and get their approval in writing, or you'll >have S&S breathing down your neck to ruin your whole year - I lost 1997 >but we survived). I'll try to organise an over head photo of the Steinway >D which got this treatment late last year if anyone would like to see it. >Anyone? > >Just play chromatically up the last few agraffe notes of the O, crossing >over into the duplex section to hear the organised chaos which begins >immediately you cross to the duplexed section. When I hear this cacophony, >all I want to do is reach for the angle grinder. > >Ron O. > >-- >_______________________ > >OVERS PIANOS - SYDNEY >Grand Piano Manufacturers > >Web: http://overspianos.com.au >mailto:info@overspianos.com.au >_______________________ > >--- > >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.486 / Virus Database: 284 - Release Date: 5/29/2003 Greg Newell Greg's piano Forté mailto:gnewell@ameritech.net -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > --- > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.486 / Virus Database: 284 - Release Date: 5/29/2003 > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >
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