machines or not? what?

[Tony Caught]

Hi André

Don't blame Alan for those comments, they are mine. I am at the moment
trying to understand why so many people who use these machines recon that
they are so good. To tune a piano from A0 to C8 by machine and say its tuned
is to me just unbelievable. Who is kidding who ?
So OK, Verituner is one that I have no experience with and from what has
been said by you and others has led me to believe that it is not a machine,
its a visual extension of your ear.
My lease is due to expire on my computer and because of that I have to
decide wether I want to buy a Verituner and do my bookwork manually or still
tune by ear with an assist from the machine to help relieve the stress.

Look After,

Tony

----- Original Message -----
From: <antares@euronet.nl>
To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 6:18 AM
Subject: machines or not? what?


>
> On vrijdag, jun 20, 2003, at 21:49 Europe/Amsterdam, Alan Forsyth wrote:
>
> >>>> " But this is still all based on the original scale that is set and
> >>>> that
> > is the way it should be.  ...To deviate from this standard (variations
> > accepted) is not in my opinion a good practice. To allow a machine to
> > say "
> > Hey my C1 inharmonicity is way, way, out, so you have to tune the
> > piano with
> > a scale that will accept me and to hell with every other note." is not
> > good.......So I guess that the correct way to tune a piano is still by
> > ear.
> > ...........">>>
> >
>
>
> I am sorry Alan Forsyth,
> but I do not agree with you.
> I have tuned an awful lot of piano's by ear and I have spoken here many
> times about my aural tuning experience.
> At the same time I have become an advocate for the most perfect tuning
> machine: the Verituner
>
> This machine gives us the most perfect tuning possible with the least
> amount of trouble. i.e. no computer stuff, no choosing of partials, no
> anything.
> You just choose your pitch and that's just it. A perfect box and at the
> same time perfectly simple to handle too.
> So far, every buyer that I know of went crazy after the very first
> tuning : they can't believe it! they have never heard such a
> fantastic tuning before in their whole life...every buyer!
>
> So think about that! you want to tune by ear? what's against that?
> nothing. but to say "So I guess that the correct way to tune a piano is
> still by ear' like you just said ?
> That is today not necessary anymore. We are now living in 2003 and the
> Verituner has been around for a number of years. leaving behind an army
> of extremely happy tuners.
> With all my respect for aural tuning and for you. (the other day my
> battery was low and I had to tune aurally, the old fashioned way....I
> grumbled but of course did the job and it was easier than ever before!
> Using the Verituner has even improved my hearing)
>
> Antares,
> The Netherlands
>
> see my web site : www.concertpianoservice.nl
> and : www.grandpiano.nl
>
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