Fw: Baldwin pre-cut string

[Joe And Penny Goss]

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Hi Michael,
 My shepheards sits down with one leg crossed under himself.  He then =
passes the long end of the staff through the circle made by his crotch =
and legs with the top part of the crook scraping his shin both ends of =
the staff pass through the same hole.
I can not see two the same holding.??
Joe Goss
imatunr@srvinet.com
www.mothergoosetools.com
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  From: Michael Gamble=20
  To: pianotech@ptg.org=20
  Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 3:16 PM
  Subject: Fw: Fw: Baldwin pre-cut string


  Hello Joe Goss
  Yes. You end up with TWO shepherds crooks. First mic. up the core of =
the broken(torn? why torn?) string, select the closest from your =
left-overs from bass restring jobs, prepare the end like (as you said) a =
shepherds crook then, taking TWO pairs of duck-billed pliers, bend over =
HALF the looped end so that it conforms to the reef-knot in its =
completed form. Next do thou likewise to the end of the broken string. =
Follow this with (as you said) passing both ends of one through the loop =
of the other. Keep trying and experimenting. It's a good wheeze and gets =
you out of a lot of trouble very quickly and effectively. I have even =
been known to strip back some of the wrapping in order to get enough =
core to make my knot - and it didn't have any effect on the tonal =
structure. Now that's what I call queer. :-}
  Regards - and Get Knotted! ;-)
  Michael G (UK)
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  From: Joe And Penny Goss=20
  To: Pianotech=20
  Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 10:29 PM
  Subject: Re: Fw: Baldwin pre-cut string


  Hi Michael,
  I  am having a little bit of a time trying to see what you are saying =
in forming the knot.
  Are you using a sort of shepherds staff-crook with the crook bent over =
on one end and at the other a crossover loop also bent over on its short =
leg?
  The long and short leg of the shepheard loop passing through the =
crossover loop?
  Joe Goss
  imatunr@srvinet.com
  www.mothergoosetools.com
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    From: Michael Gamble=20
    To: pianotech@ptg.org=20
    Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 2:19 PM
    Subject: Fw: Fw: Baldwin pre-cut string


    Hello Glenn C=20
    Yes, You are quite right. I do try to use the remaining string on =
"borrowed" pairs by this method - but only on old pianos where to put in =
new strings quite spoils the voiced chromatic tonal structure. I simply =
loosen off the unbroken one of the pair at the wrest pin, strighten out =
as much as possible the bend around the hitch and then (using my =
vise-grips on the hitch to keep all in place) thread the loose end back =
onto its wrest pin and take up the slack. Remove vise-grips, check =
strings are on the bridge OK and there you have it. Quick repair job. =
Another old dodge of mine is to repair broken wrapped strings (if they =
break at the wrest pin) by removing the old coil, s l o w l y undo the =
wrest pin about two whole turns, tie on a piece of new string using the =
pre-formed reef-knot method, and there you have it... again. A quite =
acceptable repair job in next to no time. For this repair to be =
effective you have to carry around some left-over wrapped string ends as =
the cores tend to be thicker than the thickest "metal" strings genarally =
available - up to 0.050" some are. You also have to practice pre-forming =
the reef-knot. Tricky. Nearest explanation is the way string looks as it =
goes round the hitch pin, but the plan is more like an Ohmega sign with =
extended "legs" and even then the round end is bent over to help with =
this pre-forming.
    You know Glenn, you're the lucky ones over the other side of the =
pond - we don't have any piano factories at all now in the old country. =
Even Herrberger-Brooks have gone...  End of an era. :-(
    Regards
    Michael G (UK)
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    From: Crashvalve@aol.com=20
    To: pianotech@ptg.org=20
    Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 1:36 PM
    Subject: Re: Fw: Baldwin pre-cut string



    In a message dated 10/26/03 3:16:59 AM, michael@gambles.fsnet.co.uk =
writes:



      to use the old string by simply loosening off its companion, =
straightening out the old string where it had been on the hitch, and =
threading it up to the old wrest-pin and tuning up. I find that when =
doing this the tonal quality stays the same and they don't stretch like =
a replacement new string.



    hello michael
    I'm thinking you're referring to re-useing a Broken string in this =
context, am I right ? BTW, this stringing dept. at conway was even more =
surreal since they also used pneumatic hammers mounted on swing arms, =
and the strung backs were laid on a forty-five degree angle fixture. and =
this just a week after I toured Aeolian, whose stringers were scarily =
bad !
    Glenn C. 
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