Hello list and Robin Hufford I had hoped to be able to take - as "gospel" - what Steinway themselves told me. I had an e-mail from Margaret Wolejska@steinway.com who told me such interesting things about my model "A" but on quizzing them about the embossed dates and marks on the tail end of the casting I could only get from London the reply "it's the date of the Patent" Which info ties in better. Why would S&S keep a cast plate for 20 years before using it in a new 1914 piano? You said: "There is, in fact, a date cast into the plate at the tail that represents the date of the casting as Calin says. Also, sometimes, various scale designations can be found below the dating. I think, in 1910, the company must have become concerned with people being able to read these so they substituted a letter where the year would have been. One must count alphabetically the number the letter represents, beginning with the letter A and add to this ten. This then represents the year of the dating. At the other end, and elsewhere are a number of patent dates. Also, I would suggest as regards the A model that there really should be four varieties considered, although this is not how they are normally viewed: They are: The first one - the A1 roundtail with 85 notes. The next should be the 88 note roundtail. These are not exactly the same as one has an additional rib and is, to my ear, a distinctly different sounding piano. Then there are the other two variants. In my opinion the longscale A- the 6ft four inch one, should not even be considered an A but, actually, another model. It shows the continuity in the company's view of the power of marketing, which persists to this day, that they would introduce another model, substantially different than the first three mentioned above, and yet refer to it by a designation which actually had applied to a substantially different piano. Some things never change. There is, in fact, a date cast into the plate at the tail that represents the date of the casting as Calin says. Also, sometimes, various scale designations can be found below the dating. I think, in 1910, the company must have become concerned with people being able to read these so they substituted a letter where the year would have been. One must count alphabetically the number the letter represents, beginning with the letter A and add to this ten. This then represents the year of the dating. At the other end, and elsewhere are a number of patent dates. Also, I would suggest as regards the A model that there really should be four varieties considered, although this is not how they are normally viewed: They are: The first one - the A1 roundtail with 85 notes. The next should be the 88 note roundtail. These are not exactly the same as one has an additional rib and is, to my ear, a distinctly different sounding piano. Then there are the other two variants. In my opinion the longscale A- the 6ft four inch one, should not even be considered an A but, actually, another model. It shows the continuity in the company's view of the power of marketing, which persists to this day, that they would introduce another model, substantially different than the first three mentioned above, and yet refer to it by a designation which actually had applied to a substantially different piano. Some things never change." Sorry to have returned your post in full, but I for one would like to get to the bottom of this "tail-plate embossing" So I am adding just that to the list title above. Regards Michael G (UK)
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