Baldwin pre-cut string

[Carl Meyer]

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At the kennel the signs say "pointers" and "setters".  The local marinas =
use "Inboards" and "outboards"  Double <G>

Carl Meyer Ptg assoc
Santa Clara, Ca.

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  From: Joe And Penny Goss=20
  To: Pianotech=20
  Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 7:38 AM
  Subject: Re: Baldwin pre-cut string


  <G>
  Joe Goss
  imatunr@srvinet.com
  www.mothergoosetools.com
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    From: Allan Gilreath=20
    To: 'Pianotech'=20
    Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 8:14 AM
    Subject: RE: Baldwin pre-cut string


    How about if we call them Vise grips instead of Vice grips?  There =
might be a difference. (Kind of like the sign on the door reading =
"ladies" instead of "laddies".) <chuckle>



    Allan

    Allan L. Gilreath, RPT



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    From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] =
On Behalf Of John Ross
    Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 7:56 AM
    To: Pianotech
    Subject: Re: Baldwin pre-cut string



    Hi Michael,

    Mole wrenches, are called vice grips over here.

    Regards,

    John M. Ross
    Windsor, Nova Scotia, Canada
    jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca

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      From: Michael Gamble=20

      To: pianotech@ptg.org=20

      Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 3:39 PM

      Subject: Fw: Baldwin pre-cut string



      Hello Glen & Del

      This pre-cut string is a strange idea. I thought pianos were =
always strung up from, as Del says, spools of overhead string.

      But I'd like to add a little something a-propos the kinks or bends =
in string. I have a policy when tuning an old piano, and whenever it is =
possible, to use the old string by simply loosening off its companion, =
straightening out the old string where it had been on the hitch, and =
threading it up to the old wrest-pin and tuning up. I find that when =
doing this the tonal quality stays the same and they don't stretch like =
a replacement new string. You just land up with maybe two coils or less =
on the two wrest-pins in question. The strings eventually straighten out =
pretty well. I find using a "mole-wrench" on the hitch pin a good idea =
to hold the string in place while fiddling around with the loose end. Is =
"mole wrench" an international term? It's an adjustable gripping tool =
which can grip with incredible force if needed and is adjusted by a =
knurled knob sticking out of the end of one of the handles. Good =
description?  :-)

      Michael G (UK)

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      From: Delwin D Fandrich=20

      To: Pianotech=20

      Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 5:31 PM

      Subject: Re: Baldwin pre-cut string





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        From: Crashvalve@aol.com=20

        To: pianotech@ptg.org=20

        Sent: October 22, 2003 5:13 AM

        Subject: Baldwin pre-cut string



        When I visited Conway in 73' they had precut and straightened =
wire to string the verticals. I know a straighter wire gives truer =
harmonics, Question is; does zig-zag roller straightening of piano wire =
have any downside like false beats etc ? If rollers are good, did =
Baldwin use then in two or four planes ?
        regards
        Glenn C.=20



      Unless there is a kink in the wire, any wire stretched to 150+ lbs =
of tension is going to be pretty straight. With this in mind I'm not =
sure what you mean when you say "a straighter wire gives truer =
harmonics."=20



      Baldwin uses straightened and pre-cut wire simply as a =
manufacturing expediency. These wires are purchased from Mapes to =
specification with each coming bundled in a package of, perhaps, a =
hundred or so identical wires labeled for a specific spot on a specific =
piano. These are then placed in one of several tubes set up so the =
stringer can pull whichever specific wire is needed in sequence as =
stringing progresses.



      The grand pianos are strung from standard 5-lb coils in rack held =
above the piano.



      Del

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