Tuning Tests at the Yamah Academy

[Isaac OLEG]

Hello Richard,

Great description, I noticed yet that kind of minimal strech (or no
stretch) used by Yamaha concert tuners.

And that is what the VT100 in normal mode tend for.

Did you relate that to a resasearch to phase effect in octave tuning
(like in unison tuning ?)

I had a little training lately myself, (concert prep)  and we worked a
lot the tuning of the attack of tone, the energy level, projection,
and the "elasticity of tone".

I actually can't absolutely not listen to any partial while tuning
unisson, nor octaves for that matter.

Seem to me that the natural "pitch lock" that we use while tuning
unisons, protect us from any partial deviance, or beat for that
matter.

Just "building tone", that's all (but this does not avoid justness
problems indeed)

Best Regards

Isaac OLEG


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Envoyé : dimanche 1 août 2004 22:39
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Objet : Re: Tuning Tests at the Yamah Academy


Quentin Codevelle wrote:

> Hi Richard,
>
> Thanks for sharing what you lived in the academy.
> I wondered if some students left the acadey before the end of the
> course...Because I had a teacher when I was apprentice who told me
> that when he went to the academy, a greek tuner wanted to go back
> after 4 days of work there.

Dont know about that. They did talk about some arab guy that had to be
sent home after just a few days a few years back.  He couldnt tune at
all as the story went.  Most times tho if people are not well enough
qualified to run through their mill, they are allowed to complete but
are not invited to come back for the next level.  They do their best
to
be encouraging, polite, and helpful regardless.

>
> How many technicians were attending the course with you? Has
everybody
> (who went to the end of the course) been graduated?


Everyone that attended in June passed and graduated.  Two of us got
<<A>> grades, most of the rest got <<B>>, and there was one student
who
had a hard time with tunings and I am not sure whether that person was
invited back. That person did do very well on regulation and beggining
voicing tho... so perhaps all went well there too.

>
> Quentin
>


I think what you are basically asking is whether or not its really
worth
while to go to the academy.  Just like with other such <<schools>>, my
answer is a resounding yes. You may go there knowing most of what they
have on their curriculum, and you may even be very well accomplished.
But anytime you put yourself on the school bench it is in the end up
to
you how much you learn. Here is a top notch learning environment with
accent on basics, standards, and an understanding of relationships. If
there are things you need to learn, you will learn them, and if you
have
a good working knowledge from before, they will force you to focus on
doing what you can do even better, even faster.  The only real
impediment is the language one... but it turns out to be not as big a
problem as you might think as so much of what you learn here comes
from
the practicing of the basic routines you are shown.  Lots of hands on
work, lots of hands on teaching.  Where words become a problem, visual
alternatives take hand.  Above all tho... the Japanese have this thing
about respect..... if you  go in there thinking you know
everything....
well... they will respect that and leave you too it.  You wont learn
much that way... but you may get certified if thats what you are
after.
If you get the opportunity to go... dont think twice... just make sure
you can tune well and have a decent working knowledge of basic grand
regulation.  They arent teaching miracles here... just good old staple
effectivity and accuracy.

Cheers
RicB


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