help on upcoming service call

[gordon stelter]

Try driving the pins with the block supported by an
appropriate jack. If this is not adequate tune the
piano as well as possible, then remove the action,
turn the piano over on a plastic sheet on top of
carpeted 2 x 8 scraps ( to get your fingers back under
the rim later ) and CA the block from the inside ( if
the pin holes go all the way through .) Wear a gas
mask, goggles and gloves.
    The CA will work better this way. 
    Then turn the piano back over ( after a  couple of
days ) and re-tune. I charge $350 for this. ( In an
economically depressed area. ) Remaining loose pins
can be CA'd from above. 
     I believe that tis is the best way to proceed,
short of a total rebuild.
     Thump


--- Ryan Sowers <pianorye@yahoo.com> wrote:

> With these types of repairs I believe it is most
> ethical to write a brief description of the repair
> on a lable and stick it to the plate near the
> repair. Something like " 8/11/04 applied thin C.A.
> glue to tuning pins to improve loose tuning pins." 
>  
> That way a potential buyer, if they look inside will
> see the lable and will not be mislead.
> 
> Michael Spalding <spalding48@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Terry,
> 
> I believe CA treatment is much more effective when
> applied during the dry
> season. This applies to both bushed and bushless
> plates, although bushed
> pianos are more sensitive. I've had a summer
> treatment let go the
> following winter, but I've never had problems with a
> winter treatment. 
> You want as much air around the pin as possible when
> you apply the CA.
> 
> As others have pointed out, the owner/seller may be
> tempted to exaggerate
> what you've done to the piano. I give an itemized
> receipt, and suggest
> the owner/seller show it to prospective buyers, and
> encourage them to have
> the buyer call me with questions. Of course, she may
> still shove the
> receipt in a drawer and lie, but you're covered if a
> complaint comes back
> to you. Nothing you can do about stories that go
> around behind your back,
> so let your personal susceptibility to paranoia
> guide you in whether to
> take the job.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> > [Original Message]
> > From: tlneely 
> > To: 
> 
> > Date: 8/11/2004 7:10:28 AM
> > Subject: help on upcoming service call
> >
> > Hello everyone. 
> > I am facing something I have not done before and
> need some advice. A
> new client just moved to the area, and her previous
> tech told her that her
> 5' grand needed CA treatment for loose pins before
> it would hold a tuning.
> My question is this: Is the CA treatment effective
> in pianos with tuning
> pin bushings? Or is one just glueing the pin to the
> bushing, or does it
> matter?
> > She is planning to sell the piano after tuning,
> and I know that
> myself or one of our other local guild members will
> probably be called to
> tune for the new owners. I told her that the real
> fix is a new block, but
> since she is selling, she obviously is not
> interested in that expense.
> > Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks
> > 
> > Terry Neely
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> 
> Ryan Sowers, RPT  Puget Sound Chapter
> Pianova Piano Service
> Olympia, WA
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