This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment If we have to go back to the times of poor bushing cloth...yes that is a = factor. I'm not even sure poor quality bushing cloth can be bought = anymore? Don, with all your expertice, if you have a preference in = bushing cloth and have reservations about some on the market...PLEASE = let me know...privately if need be. =20 David Ilvedson ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Don Mannino=20 To: Pianotech=20 Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 7:11 PM Subject: Re: Pinning on new flanges At 01:38 PM 8/25/2004, you wrote: If you have a hammer swinging 4 to 7 times and it has side play you = have a birdseye problem...not the bushing. =20 David I. Well, David, there is also the quality (or lack thereof) of the = bushing cloth. As many here know, I have done a bit of study into action centers, = especially grand hammer centers, both on my own and through work with a = company I worked for in the past. Even and 'correct' friction became an = obsession when I was rebuilding pianos during the 80s. At that time a piano dealer I did work for was having me "maximize" a = certain brand of American pianos, which at the time was using seriously = substandard action cloth and / or cloth sizing procedures. One of the = steps I took in customizing these actions was to do a very heavy = shrink-fitting of the hammer shank centers. Short of rebushing the = shanks, this was the best way I found to improve the fit of the centers. = The centers (which came with 19.5 pins as I recall) became extremely = loose, after which I burnished and fitted 20.5 pins into the now thinner = bushings. The change in touch and tone from this one change to the piano was = incredible. It was not subtle at all - the pianos sounded dramatically = more solid in tone and more powerful. Of course, I had to re-weigh off = the keyboards, as the weights had been installed with horribly uneven = friction levels in the actions. Hammer flange friction varied from 2 to = 10 grams in almost every set I worked on. The bushing quality is the big variable in fitting action centers, and = is one reason people will disagree so strongly on what friction is = correct. Their experience with different pianos causes different = opinions to be developed. When repinning hammer centers, I have always pinned for even friction = through the set. I strive for +- 1/2 gram within a set (a 1 gram = tolerance - which I would prefer to be 0, of course), and the amount of = friction is decided on according to the ambient temperature and = humidity, and the relative firmness of the action center cloth. 4 - 6 = grams is a guideline, but I frequently pin parts with very high quality = felt at 2 grams, especially in dry conditions. If the cloth is firm, it can be pinned more loosely and still control = the hammer motion well. If the cloth is soft, you must pin it tighter = in order to maintain the control. I do not have a formula to decide how = tight - it comes from feeling the side play after pinning, and the = experience of checking this on many pianos. As for tonal change from very tight centers, the best illustration I = have had was with one unfortunate piano in which the hammer centers were = all gummed up. The usual problem of the owner not wanting to pay for = new parts was there, so with a written disclaimer signed by the = customer, I agreed to clean and lube the action to keep it working until = the parts could be replaced. The tonal change was absolutely dramatic - = the customer said afterwards "I didn't know you were going to make the = tone better, too!" With sluggish centers the tone was dull and muffled = with very, very poor sustain. After freeing up the centers the tone was = moderately bright with very good sustain. I am also fond of the later version of the Teflon bushings, by the = way, but this is long enough for now. Don Mannino RPT ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/ed/57/1e/7e/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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