broken tuning pin

[Ron & Lorene Shiflet]

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HI Isaac.  Thanks.  The problem I ran into was that the broken pin was =
so tight, that the screw extractor was stripping out itself. =20




  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Isaac Sadigursky=20
  To: Pianotech=20
  Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 2:13 AM
  Subject: RE: broken tuning pin


  Hi,Ron! Regarding removing brocken tuning pins in verticals,there is =
actually a third way to do it and it works. Using BROCKEN Screw =
Estractor of appropriate size it drills in reverse AROUND the stem of a =
brocken pin,just like removing brocken screw and then the hole can be =
re-drilled with 1/2" PIN BLOCK material plug and shortly drilled for new =
#2 tuning pin .Try it on a practice junky pin block material and let me =
know if it works for you.Best Regards! Isaac Sadigursky=20



    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Ron & Lorene Shiflet=20
    To: Piano-Tech
    Sent: 12/11/04 11:25:58 PM=20
    Subject: broken tuning pin


        Well, I did it.  15 years in the business and I finally broke my =
first tuning pin...um... I mean the pin broke.  I was restringing the =
bass on an old upright from...well, lets just say it's a family =
heirloom.    The pins were so loose that I used new pins.  I'm unsure of =
the size, they were in an old bag laying around.  More than likely  I =
went  from a #2 to a #4, but the holes were loose, at least those that =
the owner didn't duct tape the pins in with.  Anyway, this one pin went =
in really tight.  (I think it was duct taped)  I drove it in and when I =
went to tighten it and get my coils right, the new pin snapped off at =
the becket hole.  There is about 1/4 inch of pin sitting above the =
plate.  I am familiar with 2 methods of dealing with this. =20
      1.. Drill into the pin and use a broken screw extractor.=20
      2.. Carefully measure from the backside, drill into the back of =
the piano, and drive the pin on through the back of the piano.
    I opted for method #1.  The pin drilled pretty easy.  It actually =
surprised me.  The metal was softer than I anticipated.  Unfortunately =
the tuning pin was so tight that the threads on the screw extractor =
started to strip.  I then decided to file the sides of the pin so that I =
could just grab it with my tuning hammer.  Well....it still isn't =
budging.  As for method #2, I don't measure that close and I really =
don't want to leave a hole in the back of the piano. =20

    Since the pin drilled easier than expected, I suppose I could just =
drill it out, plug the hole with hardwood, then redrill it.  I would =
imagine that this would be less visible.  Any ideas gang?=20
    thanks in advance.

    Ron Shiflet

    PS, just to give you an idea of the vintage of this piano, it has no =
capstans or bridge pins.  (I'm also wishing it didn't have tuning pins.) =
 The strings terminate over a brass bar/pressure bar system on the =
bridge so it has no bridge pins.  As for capstans, it uses a wooden =
lever that raises up and down by a screw system.  Well anyway....


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