Hi Avery, Try http://www.systransoft.com/ At 05:31 PM 1/26/2004 -0600, you wrote: > Isaac, > > And that translates to what in the U. S. ?????? > > Avery > > At 04:32 PM 1/26/04, you wrote: > moi j'ai essayé mais Minimens est bloqué en mode démo (pas de C3, 4 ou >whatever). > > En tout cas le niveau de documentation du sieur Lester est plus que correct ! > > Amitiés.. > > Isaac > -----Message d'origine----- > De : pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]De la >part de Lesher, Trent J. > Envoyé : lundi 26 janvier 2004 20:26 > À : pianotech > Objet : RE: Monochord Strings > > > > And hopefully somebody will be kind enough to let me know if I commit >any factual blunders, so I won't remain deluded too long.) > > & So that means probably one string is going to be used as an aural >reference to the starting point, and so you can hear the two notes of an >interval sounded together, and the bridge is going to be moved up and down >on the other string to show how dividing it into different ratios produces >familiar (or unfamiliar) intervals. > > (I think I figured all that right.) > > """ " I wonder how it was determined that the string should be at C3? > > " plain wire string is also supposed to be C3, that string would seem to >have about exactly 50 pounds tension on it, so I'll take that as the upper >tension limit for the other string. > > So keeping it at C3, what non-wound (for the sake of ease of >sliding/wearability) options other than regular steel music wire are there? > > " Here's a site with some data on phosphor bronze: >http://www.nbm-houston.com/bronze/bronze524.html "" variety of phosphor >bronze would apply to music wire.) > > Plain gut and nylon brought to the same pitch come out about the same as >plain steel as far as percentage of breaking strain is concerned, so I'm >assuming their medium wouldn't be solicited any better and they probably >wouldn't sound any better, plus they're stretchy and harder to keep in >precise tune and wouldn't be very loud or sustain very long (or have as >strong harmonics to demonstrate beating with). > > " " You might have better sources already, but here's a site anyway for >a whole variety of modern and historical plain wires including these >(several types of steel and iron, brass, several types of bronze, etc.): >http://www.fortepiano.com/owners.htm. > > " (.53mm) to keep the tension at about 50 lbs per string. > > """"" "" " speaking length unless you get them custom or something. > > """" "" "" " (price $1.22), but it's not clear how long they come.) > > There's a string tension calculator based on D'Addario strings at >http://www.pacificsites.net/~dog/StringTensionApplet.html" "" mode, it's >easier to see what's going on.) > > "), but it seems that at C3 the strings they make for that would put well >over 100 pounds tension per string on your monochord. > > Since the pressure and friction on the bridge would be a lot less, >maybe these less durable windings would work out all right. > > This site has most of the non-steel strings mentioned so far, for the >gauge and length you specify: http://members.aol.com/mwstrings/markwood.htm > Here's another site: http://www.harpmall.com/harp_strings.htm. > > "" that seems best (like Malcolm Rose) rather than using a wound nylon or >gut core, just for the sake (if I'm imagining this device and the situation >it will be in half-right) of some volume and better sustain as well as >stronger harmonics for classroom demonstration purpose. > > "" & http://www.parkepianostrings.com.au/about.php#music or >http://www.malinco.com/industrial/ that include smaller-than-piano-gauge >strings. > > To keep the tension within a 2-3 pounds of the current string on there, >F# could be .021, and F could be .022. > > If you used gut or nylon at these same higher tunings, I guess the >results should be good, but not very robust or sustaining, and your total >tension would be only about 1/6 or 1/7 for the same steel wire gauge, >though you'd probably automatically use a somewhat larger gauge. > > I think .027 gauge bronze wire would be about equivalent tension to >.029 in steel wire because it's about 13% heavier. > > &"" (Not that I have a lot of time on my hands, it's just I have a lot >to learn and it seems like it would be an interesting experiment.) > > (If anybody is interested, I can share some of the materials >data/equations/assumptions I'm going on for these speculations.) > > "" Any comments out there? > > Trent Lesher > > & composer, generally curious, and, based on recommendations from this >list, just started taking the Randy Potter course.) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Avery Todd [mailto:avery@ev1.net] > Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 9:51 PM > To: pianotech > Subject: Monochord > > List, > > I've put this on the caut list also, but by the time I left > today, had not found out anything. > > Does anyone know anything about these? One of our theory > professors found one in storage here and wants to use it > in some of his classes. The problem right now is that one > of the 2 strings is missing. > > Here are some specs: > ") speaking length > pitch should be 1 octave below middle C > current gage is .029 (12 ga. in piano wire) > > There is also a movable bridge, so the tension > "" great on it. > > Does anyone know the appropriate type of wire for this? > Harpsichord wire seems like it would be too thin. How > about Fortepiano wire? > > The current string does not seem to be piano wire and > I think that would be too heavy for this. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. > > ====================================================== > At 09:56 AM 1/22/04, you wrote: > The problem right now is that one > of the 2 strings is missing. > > :) > > ====================================================== > "" > having 2 strings, :-) here's what I found on a Google search. > > =============================================================== > I wondered about the two strings, also. > > But from a Google search I did, I found this at > > http://folklora.lv/muzikas/giga/en.shtml > > The monochord has been created in Sweden in 1829 for accompaniment of >spiritual singing. > Probably through the Lutheran parochial schools, monochord has got to the >Latvian peasants, > and they have begun to play on it, to make it and to improve it (the same >instrument, but with > two strings has been developed). > > Monochord consists of a long, rectangular body, stuck or hammered >together from wooden plates. > In the upper plate the sound holes are cut and a stepped rod (neck) is >attached, on which a string > (or two) is put. > > And from a different site: > > http://4.1911encyclopedia.org/M/MO/MONOCHORD.htm > > In order the better to seize the relation. of various intervals, > a second string tuned to the same note, but out of reach of > the bridge, was sometimes added to give the fundamental. > > Avery > > ****** IMPORTANT NOTICE ****** > This e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is intended only for use by the >addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or >confidential information. 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