wire coming out of beckett

[John Formsma]

I'm curious - why are you guys losing blood? I've taken plenty of old
wire from Baldwin & WurliTzer tuning pins, and never have poked my
finger.

I grab it with my small Vise grips and use the Force to command that
rascal out. Sometimes it's difficult, but my fingers don't get near the
wire.

John Formsma

> -----Original Message-----
> From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]On
> Behalf Of Joe And Penny Goss
> Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 6:27 PM
> To: Pianotech
> Subject: Re: wire coming out of beckett
>
>
> Hi John,
> Made the same decision years ago after much loss of blood and
> noticing that
> if the becket were made with a sharp bend in the first place,
> it would not
> slip out. So when there is room I pre-form the bend prior to
> putting the
> wire in the tuning pin hole. I use a round shape plier from
> the '30s that
> has a mark where the .282" bend can be made. With this plier
> I get a very
> sharp 90% bend even on the largest wire.
> Joe Goss RPT
> imatunr@srvinet.com
> www.mothergoosetools.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Ross" <jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca>
> To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
> Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 5:02 PM
> Subject: Re: wire coming out of beckett
>
>
> > Hi,
> > I have rethought putting the wire through the beckett and
> bending it. I am
> > not going to put in the extra bend.
> > I used to curse the Baldwins that had it. When a string broke, I was
> > guaranteed, to have my blood showing.
> > Thinking back to '75, when I started, I can only think of a
> couple of
> times
> > a beckett slipped, and that was on a new piano, where not
> enough length
> was
> > in the hole. If the wire is bent at right angles, and goes
> fully through
> the
> > hole, I have never had one slip.
> > I think the reason that Baldwin had for doing it, was that
> the wires were
> > pre-cut, so it was a manufacturing choice for speed, not to
> make sure it
> > didn't slip.
> > Regards,
> >
> > John M. Ross
> > Windsor, Nova Scotia, Canada
> > jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ron Nossaman" <rnossaman@cox.net>
> > To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
> > Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 5:52 PM
> > Subject: Re: wire coming out of beckett
> >
> >
> > >
> > > >Ron, So with that logical reasoning, would you not add
> the double to
> the
> > > >Baldwin?
> > > >Joe Goss
> > >
> > > Hi Joe,
> > > I would anyway, for the other reasons, and take my chances. The
> percentage
> > > of replaced broken strings that already have the "lock"
> bend is low, so
> > > it's an acceptable risk. I'm still ahead in the long run.
> > >
> > > Ron N
> > >
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