New Baldwin

Thomas A. Sheehan tsheehan@nyc.rr.com
Mon, 21 Jun 2004 14:05:54 -0400


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Ed,

I'm an infrequent poster, but a very loyal reader. So, here goes,

I've had a lot if success in eliminating or at least reducing the kinds =
of false beats you describe by using one or both of these techniques:

1) Tapping the bridge pins moderately. I use the Schaff handy-hammer =
(world's "cutest" tool) in the combo handle. I strike each bridge pin, =
and listen to the sound that results. A solidly seated pin has a clearly =
evident finality to the sound, very similar to that which one hears when =
driving a nail into a board. When a nail has been driven to its complete =
length, the impact sound changes, and one knows from listening that the =
nail is firmly and completely and correctly driven in. Bridge pins have =
similar sound properties when firmly seated.=20

I strike the pin with a 1/8" piece of brass rod, about 6 inches long. I =
am careful to angle the rod so that it follows the angle of the bridge =
pin, so when I position the rod on top of the pin before striking it, =
the rod and the pin form a straight line. It is always at an angle from =
a line that would be parallel to the soundboard or bridge cap. I =
"calibrate" the force needed by listening to the sound of the impact. I =
start with a very light blow, sometimes, the weight of the handy-hammer =
is sufficient, other times, a little more force is needed. The impact =
sound will tell me.

Related to the impact sound, is the feel of the impact. A solidly =
bottomed out pin feels solid, also as does a solidly driven nail. Were I =
practicing to learn the impact sounds with nails and a piece of scrap =
lumber, I'd try it by starting the nail with a conventional hammer, so =
that it's going in perpendicular to the lumber. Get the nail into the =
wood so that there's enough of it in so that it won't bend on subsequent =
blows. Finally, drive the nail home into the wood, using consistent =
force, and be sensitive to the change in sound and feel of the impact as =
the nail bottoms out. Experiment with brads, and with smooth, headed =
nails - not too thick or long. Drywall nail screws don't provide the =
same feel or sound because of the thread on the shaft.

Then, after doing enough of the nail calibration exercise, I'd switch =
over to the piano, and proceed in a similar fashion as described above. =
Start gently - just letting the handy-hammer drop of its own weight onto =
the top of the brass rod. Listen to the impact sound. If it has a hint =
of thinness to it, strike the bridge pin again with the hammer/rod =
combo, but this time, a wee bit more forcefully. If the pin was not =
seated firmly, this second blow will tell you that by how it sounds. =
Then, give it the drop only blow again. If the sound is the same as of =
the 2nd blow, then the bridge pin is most likely seated. It might even =
move visibly, just as a string does when tapped down.

Do all the pins in the offending section, not just the pins for the =
offending strings. There just seems to be a better result when I do =
that; I often find the pins for non-beating strings needing a more solid =
seating. The overall result of doing all the bridge pins in a section so =
that they're uniform in impact sound, is that the entire section is =
improved. I rarely find that extensive revoicing is necessary, maybe 3 =
or 4 hammers need a little touch-up with a Hart chopstick or similar =
tool.=20

2) Tap every point of string contact with any bridge, or termination =
point. For string tapping, I always tap before the 1st bridge pin, and =
after it - just enough to be sure that it's firmly against the bridge. I =
angle the rod as described above, so that the wire is being drive =
closely into the acute angle formed by the wire, the bridge pin, and the =
bridge itself. I judge by the sound of impact, as well as by looking at =
the wire. Above all, I want to avoid crushing the leading edge of the =
bridge wood. I then tap the string at the contact point immediately to =
the rear of the 1st bridge pin. Then, I mentally divide the length of =
wire going across the bridge and give a light tap at the 1/3 and 2/3 =
length. Then, tapping both sides of the rear bridge pin as before. If =
there's a duplex bridge, lightly tap the wire at the apex, so that the =
wire is firmly seated on it. To wrap it up, tap each side of the wire at =
the hitch pin, so that the wire is firmly seated, and that false beats =
that might be coming from the wire segment between the duplex bridge and =
the hitch pin are reduced, if not completely eliminated. Be careful with =
this tap; it's easy to crack the bronzing around the bottom of the hitch =
pin.=20

Remove the action, and tap the string lightly into the capo bar, not =
enough to create or deepen a groove, but only enough to insure that the =
capo/wire interface is solid. Tap the wire where it crosses the front =
duplex bridge (if there is one). Replace the action, and retune the =
piano. All that tapping will detune a piano, because of the string =
movement that's induced by the tapping.

There are other issues involved that tapping won't solve. The most =
crucial point here is that the center of the bridge pin must be aligned =
with the bridge cap notch. I.e., the notch must drop downward following =
the line of the diameters of the bridge pins (both front and rear). I =
don't do rebuilding, but there are many of our generous colleagues that =
can (a) correct any error that I've made in describing the procedures =
above, and (b) are expert in bridge recapping, drilling, notching, etc.

Hope I wasn't too redundant; thanks for wading through this rather =
long-winded reply (I probably need a good editor!)

Best regards,

Tom Sheehan, RPT
NYC Chapter

Tuner of many Grammy winning albums, including "Best Jazz Album of the =
Year" for about the last 3 or 4 years in a row, and also many other =
category Grammys - Jazz Solo of the Year, Best Jazz Composition, etc., =
back to 1979. Began tuning in 1973. Largely self taught, assisted by the =
magnificent members of the Boston Chapter - Doc Sanderson among them. =
Finest people and the most skilled, talented and generous technicians =
one could every wish to meet!=20

Director of Piano Maintenance at Berklee College of Music, Boston, MA =
1975 - 1984 (200 pianos, and 2,000 critics at the end. Inventory value =
of about $1,000,000. Trained quite a few technicians, some of whom have =
gone on to establish businesses much more successful than mine!=20

Established independent one-person micro business in NYC 1993, after =
ending a vice-president job with Yamaha, when the company closed the =
showroom and R&D studio next to Carnegie Hall on W. 57th St., across the =
street and up the block from Steinway Hall. I've worked with many of the =
world's greatest pianists and ensembles  - primarily jazz; as eventually =
happened in Boston, I'm now one of the preferred tuners for a number of =
the more prominent recording studios and concert halls in the City. It =
takes time, perseverance, constant upgrading of skills, being assertive =
but not arrogant, able to tune very quickly and accurately with noise =
problems a frequent challenge. There are a number of outstanding tuners =
in NYC, in our Chapter as well as others. It is a privilege to work with =
all of them, and to learn from each other constantly.=20

Please post again and let us know what method worked.=20

Ah, yes, sorry but I forgot to mention that there are times when it's =
necessary to change strings that are offensive; they might have lost =
their pliability. Also, if the hammer is badly grooved, it's always a =
good idea to file it down and revoice as needed. Another point to =
consider is to chopstick voice right in the groove that is activating =
the offending string. Sugar coat it (shallow needle - 1/2 mm or so), =
right in the groove, and over the crown - striking point. Can do wonders =
for emergency situations in a studio or prior to a concert. Tune =
forcefully at all times. Get that string to move over all contact =
points, and to have a good balance of tension among the various string =
segments. Of course, don't strike a note so hard that something breaks =
(although that can happen through no fault of the technician). But =
double forte is the minimum, for all strings of all notes. Check octaves =
periodically to be sure that reference string (usually the center =
string) didn't drift out of tune while pounding in the unisons. It can =
be annoying, but retune. Use test liberally - Baldassin's "On Pitch" is =
the best reference I found - but I played the book, over and over again =
at the piano while doing real tunings. Slowed me down at first, but =
really provided excellent organization and reasoning for extending one's =
tuning beyond the temperament.=20

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Ed Carwithen=20
  To: pianotech@ptg.org=20
  Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2004 5:41 PM
  Subject: New Baldwin


  A client of mine has a new Mason and Hamlin BB, 7' grand.  He has a =
particularly keen ear, and any tonal problems give him grief.  The piano =
was bought new in 2003.  I have worked on it a couple of times, and the =
tech from the store has been there once.  The problem is C7 through F#7 =
notes.  On each of these notes there is at least one string that has =
wildly false beats.  The G7 on up to C8 sound beautiful and clear.  =
Below the C7 is likewise clear.  The C7 and the D# 7 are particularly =
bad.  In each case it is the treble (right) string that is the problem.  =
I made sure that the string is tight to the bridge.  There doesn't seem =
to be any impediment at the v bar.   I "delicately" voiced with a =
needle, all to no avail.  Any suggestions as to cause or cure????

  =20

  Ed Carwithen

  John Day, OR

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