Ron, So with that logical reasoning, would you not add the double to the Baldwin? Joe Goss imatunr@srvinet.com www.mothergoosetools.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Ross" <jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca> To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org> Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 12:43 PM Subject: Re: wire coming out of beckett > Hi Ron, > Previous to your post, I had always thought the extra bend, a real pain, > when replacing a broken one. > I had always hated the extra bend on the Baldwins. > I also found that the extra bend resulted, in more of my blood being > spilled. > I will now reinvestigate my previous assumptions. > When I replace a string, I always indicate on my bill, which string was > replaced. It is a carry-over from the days when I used to repair electronic > organs, if a note went after my repair, it was 'always', the one I had just > repaired, that went again. So I had to be able to prove it wasn't. > On a piano, it is not as bad, because, you have new/shiny, versus old/not > shiny, in most cases. > > John M. Ross > Windsor, Nova Scotia, Canada > jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ron Nossaman" <rnossaman@cox.net> > To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org> > Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 3:30 PM > Subject: Re: wire coming out of beckett > > > > > > >In the situation that you describe, it would be my thought, though not > > >liking the idea, to let the wire stick through the tuning pin about 1/4" > > >so that the wire could be bent over ala cheep spinets from the 60s. I do > > >not like the double bend as it makes replacing a broken string much > > >harder. But if the old pin is holding fine why replace it when this > repair > > >will let it hold the new string? > > > > > >Joe Goss > > > > I use that double bend in every string I replace as a field repair. There > > are a couple of reasons. One is insuring the becket doesn't pull out when > I > > crank it up to pitch. They don't - ever, no matter what shape the pin is > > in. Another is that I find it easier to manage the coil during > > installation, and insure it's tight after. At least as important to me as > > any other reason is that it offers an undeniable visual indication of what > > string or strings I have replaced over time. This is useful in the long > run > > as evidence of overall string condition when we once again talk about > > rebuilding. When I, and they, can count a dozen obvious string > replacements > > without bending over the piano, it makes a point. It is also invaluable > > when, not if, I get the call saying that string I replaced last week broke > > again. I can go out and point to the one I replaced (with the extra bend), > > right next to the freshly broken one (without), and leave no doubt that > > this is a brand new self-contained service call with it's own accompanying > > fee. End of discussion. While I have had people argue with me that a rusty > > old broken string was the one I installed last time (before I started > doing > > the bent over end), I haven't yet run into anyone idiot enough to insist > > that the little bend on the end of the wire (that I can show them on the > > string(s) I DID replace), spontaneously evaporated from that dull broken > > string. There's still time, and I haven't met everyone yet, but so far so > good. > > > > Ron N > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > > > > > _______________________________________________ > pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >
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