CA glue

[David Love]

Come on Susan, you know if some is good then a whole lot has to be a whole
lot better.  

David Love
davidlovepianos@comcast.net 

-----Original Message-----
From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf
Of Susan Kline
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 4:02 PM
To: tune4u@earthlink.net; Pianotech
Subject: RE: CA glue

Alan, everything you and some of the others write makes me want to say,
"YOU'RE USING TOO MUCH!"

Have you ever tried using less? For instance, have you ever tried treating
only the pins which are too loose to tune? If a few other sort of loose pins
stop holding later, you can always treat them later.

The beauty of CA for pinblocks, in my experience, is that it doesn't have to
be a big deal. No special appointments, no arranging for the customer to
be gone, no setting up fans or using special masks. I just put a few drops
on the seam where the tuning pin emerges from the block, try it in ten 
minutes,
maybe put on a few drops more, and get on with the tuning. A few drops won't
gas you, or drip through onto the action, or make your shop clothes smoke.
Much less chance of it getting in your eye, too, if you aren't sloshing it
around by the ounce-ful. I still keep acetone in the car. I once glued my
thumb to my forefinger when replacing a rubber button, by having a little
bit
of white glue on the forefinger when applying the CA.

Just MHO,

Susan

P.S. I like Lock Tite for a brand. They stopped calling it Quik Tite, and 
now it is just sold as super glue, but it still has the tapering small 
spout, just right for reaching the base of a tuning pin, and the needle 
built into the cap. It lives in a little pouch in my kit, and the small 
plastic bottle is good for a couple of months, usually. I use it every 
couple of days, and toss it if it starts to gel in the bottle. Sometimes I 
have to unclog it with a voicing needle in a pin vise, but sometimes 
bottles stay good and keep coming out right down to the last, without aid. 
I never leave the lid off for more than a few seconds.

At 09:00 AM 8/15/2005 -0500, you wrote:

>There's no secret to it, you just want CA that is water-thin. Hobby stores
>may have it or look on the web and find "super thin" or some such. Some use
>hypos to put it in but I like a closed system with less chance for leaking
>or squirtage (fun new word, I made it up). Schaff's hypo oiler, No. 189,
>page 45, works well. The larger one, No. 184, works too but is a little
>harder to control the flow.
>
>Safety hints from bad experience:
>
>Where safety goggles. A tiny drop in the eye is a trip to the emergency
>room and bad news.
>
>Have acetone or acetone-based nail polish and a rag within easy reach of
>your work.
>
>Use a small desk-type electric fan to blow the fumes anywhere except in
>your face. Open windows. Do this work when the customer is not home, if
>possible, or explain that the fumes are nasty but they are only in the
>liquid carrier of the CA and it will have no odor at all when it is cured.
>
>If titlting an upright, spread a dropcloth under and beyond the area in
>which you are working, then spread newspapers on the drop cloth. This stuff
>can drip and it can run along surfaces and fall off some distance from the
>pin you are applying it to. Ruining someone's carpet or floor will ruin
>your day! If not tilting, just spot treating a few pins, be patient: Let
>each drop wick in before applying more and have a rag right at the spot to
>catch runoff.
>
>Certain types of cloth I've used--especially a red shop towel I bought at
>Walmart--start smoking when you get CA on it. I've never had one burst into
>flames, but there was a definite exothermic chemical reaction going on
>there.
>
>If doing a grand, the stuff WILL drip onto the action. You must cover it
>or, more safe, remove it. If you remove it, put some newspaper on the key
>bed, anyway.
>
>Alan Barnard
>Salem, Missouri
>
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: FRANCES HELMS <fhelms@topeka.k12.ks.us>
> > To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
> > Date: 08/15/2005 8:44:42 AM
> > Subject: CA glue
> >
> > Forgive me. There have been quantities of articles about the use of CA
>glue in loose pin blocks, but I attempted to search the archives without
>success.  From what I read previously about this, not all CA glues are
>created equal.
> >
> > Getting ready to try this on a pin block for the first time.  Please
>advise as to the best type of CA glue to use.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Fran Helms,
> > Piano Technician,
> > Topeka, KS
> >
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