David, I don't like them either. But they ARE water based, "biodegradeable" ( according to the bottle ) and smell much less ( and are less toxic) than gasoline. Just very, very concentrated alkaline soaps, really. If you wear a gas mask and gloves, you can keep your exposure to almost nothing. I would much rather this, then subject a customer to owning a piao that stank of the cooking/pet/tobacco/body odors of the last 10 houses the thing sat in. Thump --- David Ilvedson <ilvey@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > Yeah, like I'm going to subject my body to those > chemicals...no thanks. > > David Ilvedson > > > > ----- Original message > ---------------------------------------- > From: gordon stelter <lclgcnp@yahoo.com> > To: Pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org> > Received: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 10:32:22 -0800 (PST) > Subject: Re: cleaning keys > > > >"Dunking" is a better term than "Soaking". I use > >"Purple Power", available at my automotive paint > store > >as a pre-painting degreaser, for $3/gallon. But > >"Super-Clean" is the original version of these many > >generic ultra-powerful soaps, bought out by castrol > >and now available at Pep Boys and Wal > >( BLECH! ) Mart, etc.. > > Wear mask, gloves, goggles anbd protective > >clothing. This stuff will disolve you if allowed to > >sit. Some guy here let it drip into his sneakers > and > >ended up at the hospital. > > Dunk action parts, swish around a bit, rinse > with > >hose blast( taking off old action felts > simultaneously > >) lay on screen and dry, flipping occassionally. I > >have never seen any sign of warpage from doing > this. > > Re-felt, Lube with Protec, test centers and > put > >back in piano. Just watch out for the one or two > >pieces in an action that may have been milled from > a > >laid-up board, and come apart in the rinse. > >( Not serious.) > > Actions come out very clean, light-colored and > >almost odor free. Follow up with ozone tent if > still > >at all stinky ( mousey actions ). > > Thump > > > >--- Alpha88x@aol.com wrote: > > >> In a message dated 2/20/05 2:18:17 PM Pacific > >> Standard Time, > >> lclgcnp@yahoo.com writes: > >> > >> > Thump (Gordon Stelter) has another cleaning > method > >> > >that is intriguing. It involves soaking things > in > >> > >some concoction. I haven’t been able to > >> overcome my > >> > >built in resistance to soaking wood parts in > >> fluid > >> > >to try it. But the results are beautiful. It > >> should > >> > >be in the archives within the last few months. > > >> > > > >> > >I use this ( "Superclean" ) to briefly soak > black > >> > and stinky action parts. Then I rinse them and > dry > >> > them on a screen. It DOES work ewell ( Thank > you, > >> > Dean! ) . try it on some junk and see for > >> yourself. > >> > But I am pretty shy about using it on keys, > >> > because they are more likely to warp, in my > >> > experience. If I did, I'd tack down the buttons > >> with > >> > brads, first, lest they shift around or come > >> loose. > >> > > >> > >> What is the stuff you soak parts in and where can > >> one get some?? > >> > >> > >> Julia > >> Reading, PA > >> > > > > > > > > >__________________________________ > >Do you Yahoo!? > >Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. > >http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > >_______________________________________________ > >pianotech list info: > https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > > _______________________________________________ > pianotech list info: > https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo
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