Stretching the Treble

David Ilvedson ilvey@sbcglobal.net
Sun, 24 Jul 2005 20:57:10 -0700


I agree completely.   Learn to tune well aurally, pass the PTG test aurally then give yourself a reward of a good ETD and use it along with your aural skills.

David Ilvedson



----- Original message ----------------------------------------
From: Ric Brekne <ricbrek@broadpark.no>
To: pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org>
Received: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 00:34:59 +0200
Subject: Stretching the Treble


>Hi Jon, Susan, David, and others.

>Jon... just thought you might find it interesting to hear that a P 12ths 
>tuning nearly always ends up leaving C8 somewhere between 32 and 36 
>cents stretched, which of course means the 3rd partial of the 12th below 
>is correspondingly offset.

>As far as the rest of this discussion is concerned.  Let me just say 
>this. Pretty much all the seasoned tuners on this list understand and 
>can relate to the need for speed.  The quick and dirty, the 45 minute 
>wonder job... whatever you wish to term it.  But very few of these same 
>would find reason to disencourage any tuner from learning to understand 
>and master aural skills. And there are very good reasons for this.

>An ETD should IMHO definatly be in just about everyones bag of tools 
>these days... but if you are leaving your ears out of your tuning skills 
>box.... well you are just putting more buisness in the hands of tuners 
>what know how to use them. But by all means... too each their own.

>Cheers
>RicB

>Jon Page wrote:

>I've been tuning pianners for 30+ years and the last 3 with the 
>assistance of the Verituner 100.
>I have tweaked the style setting to stretch the octaves in a manner 
>which emulates my
>aural tuning style.

>I have noticed that C8 is usually stretched to about +36c (less than 
>what I was setting aurally,
>which was too high - broken strings).

>Where do others end up?  I followed another tuner on a rental D 
>recently and C8 was +60c,
>way too sharp for my taste.


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