---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment On 3-jun-05, at 17:02, Joe Garrett wrote: > Renner or Abel? Neither one!!! What you need/want are essentially Cold=20= > Pressed Hammers. I would suggest Ronsen. Ray does a very nice job of=20= > reproducing "ancient" style hammers. > Regards, > Joe Garrett, R.P.T. > Captain, Tool Police > Squares R I Joe, you live in the USA, far away from Europe. For Americans it is=20 natural to buy their hammers in the USA, just as it is common sense for=20= Europeans to buy their hammers in Europe. To get hammers to Europe from the USA is of course more expensive=20 because of the shipping, but at the same time it is not really=20 necessary because we have in Germany two major hammer makers, who also=20= have their agents in the USA, whereas Ray Negron does not really export=20= his hammers to Europe, as far as I know (is that correct Ray?). I write this actually in answer to Calin who lives in Rumania. Calin, I think there is a difference between Abel and Renner, but I do=20= not really know the difference between them in how they make their=20 hammers. Up till recently, Abel mainly used VFG felt, while Renner mainly used=20 Wurzen felt. That has changed now. I have visited both hammer makers and both make excellent hammers. Renner I have visited a number of times and to Abel I went just one=20 time. Both make many many hammers for all of the world, but about Renner I=20 know that they have a fully automated hammer press which I think is=20 better for making balanced hammers, because one can control the process=20= of making hammers in a more efficient way. Furthermore, we buy our hammers straight from Renner because there is=20 no restriction there, whereas Abel works only through an agent in=20 Holland and that is the only place to get Abel hammers for Dutch=20 technicians. A direct contact with the factory means also a more efficient way to=20 exchange ideas about making special hammers. I know that both factories=20= make excellent copies of any hammer, but the interference of an agent=20 limits us in that very same process and we therefor buy our hammers=20 from Renner only. The result is a magnificent range of hammers we love to work with every=20= day. This also clearly shows that protectionism works against individual=20 development. This is not really an account of my personal choice, because I already=20= said that both companies make very good hammers, (proivided the felt is=20= Wurzen felt ! ). The best thing to do would be to try out both=20 factories and see which hammer set pleases you the most. Of course it would be very interesting to try Ronsen's hammers as well,=20= maybe the cost of shipping is not that bad after all. It is not easy for Europeans to judge publicly between two excellent=20 European hammer factories. Maybe that's the reason why only American technicians have reacted so=20 far, and most Euroepean listers remain silent in their usual silent=20 lurking mode? friendly greetings from Andr=E9 Oorebeek www.concertpianoservice.nl "Where music is no harm can be" ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 3341 bytes Desc: not available Url : https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/ab/ab/a2/37/attachment.bin ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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