This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Hello Andre I'm lurking silently here in the UK Michael G.(UK) ----- Original Message -----=20 From: antares=20 To: Pianotech=20 Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 8:27 PM Subject: reflections on a hammer On 3-jun-05, at 17:02, Joe Garrett wrote: Renner or Abel? Neither one!!! What you need/want are essentially = Cold Pressed Hammers. I would suggest Ronsen. Ray does a very nice job = of reproducing "ancient" style hammers. Regards, Joe Garrett, R.P.T. Captain, Tool Police Squares R I Joe, you live in the USA, far away from Europe. For Americans it is = natural to buy their hammers in the USA, just as it is common sense for = Europeans to buy their hammers in Europe. To get hammers to Europe from the USA is of course more expensive = because of the shipping, but at the same time it is not really necessary = because we have in Germany two major hammer makers, who also have their = agents in the USA, whereas Ray Negron does not really export his hammers = to Europe, as far as I know (is that correct Ray?). I write this actually in answer to Calin who lives in Rumania. Calin, I think there is a difference between Abel and Renner, but I do = not really know the difference between them in how they make their = hammers.=20 Up till recently, Abel mainly used VFG felt, while Renner mainly used = Wurzen felt.=20 That has changed now.=20 I have visited both hammer makers and both make excellent hammers. Renner I have visited a number of times and to Abel I went just one = time. Both make many many hammers for all of the world, but about Renner I = know that they have a fully automated hammer press which I think is = better for making balanced hammers, because one can control the process = of making hammers in a more efficient way. Furthermore, we buy our hammers straight from Renner because there is = no restriction there, whereas Abel works only through an agent in = Holland and that is the only place to get Abel hammers for Dutch = technicians. A direct contact with the factory means also a more efficient way to = exchange ideas about making special hammers. I know that both factories = make excellent copies of any hammer, but the interference of an agent = limits us in that very same process and we therefor buy our hammers from = Renner only. The result is a magnificent range of hammers we love to work with = every day. This also clearly shows that protectionism works against individual = development. This is not really an account of my personal choice, because I already = said that both companies make very good hammers, (proivided the felt is = Wurzen felt ! ). The best thing to do would be to try out both factories = and see which hammer set pleases you the most. Of course it would be very interesting to try Ronsen's hammers as = well, maybe the cost of shipping is not that bad after all. It is not easy for Europeans to judge publicly between two excellent = European hammer factories. Maybe that's the reason why only American technicians have reacted so = far, and most Euroepean listers remain silent in their usual silent = lurking mode? friendly greetings from Andr=E9 Oorebeek www.concertpianoservice.nl "Where music is no harm can be" ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/8c/2a/f3/a1/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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