Finding a good scale structure can be tricky. You want to maximize your profits, relieve scheduling stress, minimize travel time, attract quality clientele, encourage people to do work over and above just tuning (how there pianos sound and play can reflect on you) and yet you sometimes need to be able to accommodate those customers who are "tune onlys". And if you are building your business, you may need to think about being competitive. I live in the San Francisco Bay Area where the cost of living is higher than high, so my actual dollar amounts may be inappropriate for other regions. It's the relative amounts that are important. My structure continues to evolve but at present, it looks something like this. I give customers the option depending on the type of service they want. I prefer to develop a group of customers who want a little more out of their pianos and are willing to look beyond simple tuning. At the same time, I don't turn down customers who are "tune only". Some of my best customers started out as "tune onlys". So, my standard service call appointment is 90 minutes and costs $175. It takes me about 45 -60 minutes to do a normal tuning, 10 minutes more if it's a pitch raise, 20 minutes more if it's a serious pitch raise. If it's a regularly serviced piano, that leaves me a good 30 minutes plus(generally) to do other things depending on what the piano needs. That might be cleaning, voicing, lubrication, regulating, it depends on the need. If they want "tune only" the fee is $135, tune only with normal pitch correction, $155, after that were at the 90 minute mark. BTW a 90 minute appointment might only be enough to tune a severely out of tune piano to pitch. I can't imagine a tuning taking more than 90 minutes unless I just pulled it out of the pond. However, I generally advise that first time appointments are likely to be 90 minutes and charged accordingly--unless they are just switching tuners and the piano has been serviced regularly. Even on a regularly serviced piano, 90 minutes gives me the opportunity to go over the piano and see just what it needs as well as deal with a few additional items so I encourage it. Time after 90 minutes is billed hourly at $95. That's a slightly lower rate than the hourly figured for a tune only or a 90 minute appointment, but part of the initial fee is getting there. Once I'm there I don't mind charging a little less per hour. The longer they want me there, the better off I am when you factor in driving. The goal is to limit my travel on a daily basis and to develop a clientele that wants higher quality service. By scheduling a maximum 90 minute appointment (unless it's a special case: major know-in-advance regulation, voicing, whatever) I relieve the stress of scheduling things too close or too far apart. If I find something more needs doing, I schedule another appointment. You make more money when you drive less. The longer the appointments and the fewer appointments per day, the more you make on a per day hourly basis. In reality, I try and schedule only 2-3 appointments in a day and reserve the rest for shop time as I seem to be spending more and more time there, but you get the idea. To set this up, I inquire what type of service they want when they call for the appointment. If they don't know me, I explain it. If they are not sure I ask a lot of questions and advise them. If they want tune only, I do tune only and I schedule one hour. In reality, I'm not black or white on these rules (bad way to be). I will adjust or lubricate a pedal, sugar coat a few hard hammers in the tune only mode. But if it gets involved, I charge. I'm always fair to the customer but not at any real expense to myself. I tend to round down rather than up. I don't want to lose someone over a nickel. David Love davidlovepianos@comcast.net -----Original Message----- From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of David Andersen Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 11:35 PM To: Pianotech Subject: Re: Tuning price So I thought I was gonna just let this one go, shock everybody with my high LA prices, and leave it at that, but I can't. Thank you, Brad Smith, for saying eloquently what I'm going to say a little more forcefully. Most of us have an unbelievably varied and custom skillset; we are honest, and careful, and do the best job we can; why the HELL do some of us persist in thinking we're not as worthy as the plumber or the cable guy of getting paid what we're worth? Fifty bucks for 60-90 minutes of focused, difficult, custom professional work? That's pathetic, in Minot, ND, or anywhere else. $91.00 in London or Amsterdam is pathetic. Can I vent? We have spent our entire history as piano artisans, by and large, undervaluing our skills and work; I see it all over; if I hear another pianotech tell me they can't charge any more because people don't really give a s**t, or can't hear the difference, or whatever excuse they come up with, I think I'll throw up. I work my a** off to do the highest quality work, provide my customers with beauty and enjoyment, educate them, and allow them to relax and trust that they will be taken care of. How much is that worth? I heard a guy teaching a class at a national convention say that a pair of pliers that cost maybe $60 was the most expensive tool he ever bought, and that he just can't see spending money on tools for "just pianos." What can I say? What if your doctor felt that way? Or your accountant? Or your gardener, for God's sake? Wake up, ladies and gentlemen. You need to take care of your families and get paid what you're worth. You caught me in a cranky, preachy mood....rrrrrrrr. 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