Ozone for mouse pee on keys.

[gordon stelter]

Well, I can still see ozone as a good way to get odor
out of mouse-pee'd on keys, after they have been
physically cleaned as much as possible. Keybeds can be
scrubbed, rinsed and painted, but keys ( obviously )
suffer more damage if this approach is used. As they
keys and keybed are the #1 spot for direct
contamination, much could be done to mitigate odors by
focusing on this area.
     Thump

P.S. I also do keyrails, and if the original pins are
OK< put soda straws over them and spray-paint the
rails aftera  thorough washing and drying, to seal in
as much odor as possible. If this was done after
bagging the keyframe and bed and ozoning it, I imagine
that as much mitigation would ensue as possible. 
     Short of buying a  new piano, of course!. 

--- gordon stelter <lclgcnp@yahoo.com> wrote:

> My idea is to ozone pianos that have been dismantled
> and thoroughly cleaned, prior to rebuilding. Even
> then, I'd rather have a piano with discolored
> strings
> ( who ses them?) than mouse stink.
>      Thump
> 
> --- John Delmore <jodel@kairos.net> wrote:
> 
> > As a chemist, I would have other concerns about
> > subjecting a piano to "ozone
> > treatment".  Ozone breaks chemical bonds.  The
> same
> > ones that hold together
> > such things as hide glue.  I would seriously worry
> > about the whole thing
> > falling apart, with enough ozonation.
> > John
> >  
> >   _____  
> > 
> > From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org
> > [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf
> > Of Nichols
> > Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 9:40 AM
> > To: Pianotech
> > Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Ozone generator questions
> for
> > piano repair.
> >  
> > Tom,
> > 
> >     No correction needed. Glad to hear more about
> > what happened with some of
> > these pianos, from the marketing standpoint. What
> I
> > was referring to was the
> > ozone treatment that was used on quite a few
> units.
> > What I heard, as a
> > dealer back then, was that the fire affected a
> > couple of areas, including a
> > storage area (with wrapped units) and others.
> There
> > was an ozone treatment
> > performed on a bunch of pianos, and several were
> > shipped out. I had a
> > couple, myself, which I promptly returned do to
> > discoloration of the strings
> > and other problems, caused by the treatment.
> > My two remaining brain cells haven't retained any
> > other details form this
> > incident, but further (including very recent)
> > research has convinced me that
> > blasting with ozone, although effective, is not a
> > good idea. The operation
> > was a success, but the patient died, kinda thing.
> > For mold, there are other
> > effective measures. 
> > 
> > Thanks again, Tom,
> > Guy
> > 
> > 
> > At 11:33 PM 11/9/2005 -0500, you wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Ozone generator questions
> for
> > piano repair.
> > Gordon, 
> >    You may want to check with a couple of FBGs
> > (former Baldwin guys) about
> > subjecting pianos to ozone generators. There's a
> > heck of a story there, from
> > about 12 years ago, with the end result being the
> > loss of about 600 verts. 
> > Ozone is NOT recommended.
> > Guy Nichols
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Guy, 
> >     Actually, the end result was a bit more
> complex
> > . 
> >     I'm  happy to be corrected but from reliable
> > sources this is the story
> > as told to me. 
> >     Baldwin placed an insurance claim on the
> pianos
> > in question and
> > received compensation as was their right. 
> >     Then the insurance company  took possesion and
> > dumped the piano's to a
> > local salvage -discount store chain  in the
> > Massachusetts area called
> > "Building 19" 
> >     They were marketed as salvage piano's from a
> > "Famous" maker,and sold
> > essentially "as is"  @ a big discount. 
> >     The  stickers inside were removed and covers
> > were glued over the name
> > plates but it soon became no secret that these
> were
> > Baldwins and they flew
> > out of the stores. 
> >     
> >     End result was a merchandising nightmare for
> the
> > local Baldwin dealer
> > (Baldwin of Boston I believe) Why buy from them
> when
> > the same piano 5 miles
> > away was half price at Building 19? 
> >     Perhaps other factors were also at hand , but
> > this genius move by
> > Baldwin did not endear the company to the dealers'
> > heart and before long
> > they closed the doors. 
> >     I was told that the pianos were wrapped when
> > this accident happened and
> > from the few I service they seem no better?  or
> > worse that any other Baldwin
> > from the same era. 
> >     Again ,this is the story I heard from more
> than
> > one source -. 
> >     Tom Driscoll RPT. 
> >   
> >     
> >    
> >     
> >     
> > 
> 
> 
> 
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