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David Skolnik wrote: "Of course, I could be wrong"
Whereas anything is possible, I suspect you are pretty much right on =
with your post. I've gone through OSHA health & safety training for =
hazardous material handling and for closed space entry and everything I =
was taught is consistent with what you've written. Especially germane is =
what you wrote about the respirators.
Excellent post. Thanks.
Terry Farrell
From: David Skolnik <davidskolnik@optonline.net
As explained to me by two technical people from Loctite, which =
manufactures a wide variety of CA and other adhesives, their Odorless =
formulation (408 Prism brand Instant Adhesive) accomplishes its =
odorlessness through a fornulation that has a heavier molecular weight =
than the odor-ful versions. This weight keeps any fumes from rising to =
nose level. This is measured as Vapor Pressure. The exposure limit for =
this formulation is set at the same level as the regular product, which =
is 0.2ppm TWA. The odor is perceptible at 1-2ppm and irritation occurs =
at 3-4ppm. Which means, if you can smell it, you're already over the =
threshold limit. We discussed the difference between allergic response =
and irritant response, the later being the issue in most cases. =
Allergic response is found more in skin contact than respiration.
While the MSDS advises use of approved respirator, the document's =
author indicated that such dependance is strongly discouraged for a =
number of reasons. OSHA regulations require that:
- Any respirator, apart from its appropriateness, must be properly =
fitted, (sorry, no beards allowed :()
- Worker must pass physical to confirm ability to tolerate =
respiratory strain associated with pulling air through filter device
- Ambient atmospheric moisture will cause fumes to polymerize on the =
mask's surface, rapidly restricting the available air flow
Bottom line...respirators are not a desirable solution to CA fumes.
Only truly advisable method is to generate air exchange. Simple air =
circulation, as with a fan is NOT advised, since it will distribute the =
fumes, though, if the space is large enough, and the elapsed time is not =
prolonged, a fan might work to displace the fumes from the immediate =
area of deployment.
As to the post from Dorothy Bell, I can't address the chemistry, per =
se, however, the issue of respiratory irritation and the ensuing =
reactions seems to present itself at lower dosage than would be required =
to cause any symptoms of cyanide poisoning. The MSDS indicates a =
concern for the material as an irritant, not as a toxin.
Bottom bottom line - Fumeless is better, fresh air is best.
Last bottom line - MSDS for Accelerator indicates central nervous =
system irritant. The residue left after solvent dissolves is, in a =
word, nasty. I've been way to cavalier in my use of this stuff.
David Skolnik
Of course, I could be wrong
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