Ok, This is weird

[Delwin D Fandrich]

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From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On =
Behalf Of
Greg Newell
Sent: September 17, 2005 6:49 AM
To: Pianotech
Subject: Re: Ok, This is weird


Dave,
        That's an interesting thought and a possible resolution to the =
crisis
but it doesn't answer if anything could or should be done with a warped =
plate. I
may go back to the call I had last night at my own expense to see if the =
glide
bolt adjustment will work. I don't mind eating a little for my own =
education. I
still wonder 1) could this have happened some time after manufacture and =
2) If
not, why was this ever sold in the first place?

Greg



At 10:22 PM 9/16/2005, you wrote:


Greg,
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I had this happen on a brand new BB Mason and Hamlin not so long ago.  I =
raised
the glide bolts, and it slipped right out.  They'd been cranked WAY =
down, though
I couldn't figure out why.  The keyframe was up about 1-16 inch higher =
than it
should have been. =20
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I hope this helps,
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Dave Stahl
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In a message dated 9/16/2005 4:14:50 PM Pacific Standard Time,
gnewell@ameritech.net writes:


Listees,


         I've never encountered this before and now I've seen it twice =
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the same week. 2 pianos both from very different manufacturers and from=20


different eras coming in to my neck of the woods from 2 entirely =
different=20


climates and regions both have the same problem. I went to each of these =



customers homes and for one reason or another found it necessary to pull =



the action. (Sorry, both are grands). I found that the pin blocks were=20


touching the center 2 octave action screws and it was impossible to pull =



the action as we normally due. I was able to pull off the stretcher on =
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of these and found to my surprise that the pin block was intact. No=20


delaminations at all which is what I expected to find. Instead I found=20


after fishing out one of my most important tools (string) that the plate =



was warped downward in the center by roughly 3/8" or 10 mm pushing the =
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block into the action.


         If any of you have ever run in to this problem especially in a=20


rebuilding capacity, what if anything have you done about it? I know of =
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way to un warp cast iron so I suppose that's out of the question. Is the =



piano scrap now? Is it possible that the warp happened recently and did =
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exist at the time of manufacture?


         FWIW, one of the pianos is a 70yr old (or there abouts) Henry =
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Miller grand and the other is a 15-20 yr. old Schumann (Samick product). =



The first actually has some potential to be a fine instrument if it =
weren't=20


for the warped plate. The second never was and never will be anything =
but a=20



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Greg Newell
Greg's piano Fort=E9
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