Agraffes-Jude's reply

[Andrew and Rebeca Anderson]

Biene has pins with the steel rods in them.  Metric thread too, not 
sure if that will help on the Bechstein.  I believe Jurgen is 
offering a number of Biene products.

Andrew Anderson

At 02:32 PM 4/4/2006, you wrote:
>Sorry for the late response. Some days I get so caught up in the 
>shop I don't get to catch up with all the interesting stuff going on 
>here. Anyway...
>
>Jude,
>Regarding the tumbler, I guess it's safe to say you are not keeping 
>them in order, or are you?
>Fenton
>
>I've been back and forth as far as the order is concerned. When I 
>first started restoring agraffes I kept them in order, but when I 
>started using the tumbler I abandoned the order figuring that when I 
>installed new ones they were out of order anyway. I might try 
>thraeding them in order on a wier and then tumbling.  If the effort 
>to keep order doesn't take more time than working from scratch, 
>it'll be worth it.
>
>Jude,
>I've never heard of Dri-Shine. What is it? where do you get it? ect.?
>As for the "Tumbler"....Yikes! Not a good way to go, IMO. That will 
>screw up the threads.
>Joe Garrett, R.P.T. (Oregon)
>
>I love your process Joe. I'll have to give it a try. Dri-shine III 
>is the most mild medium available for the tumbler and it is made of 
>corn husks. I'm pretty sure that it causes no damage to the threads. 
>In fact I have to prep the agraffes in the blasting cabinet first 
>because the tumbler will not even remove lacquer and it takes 70 
>hours in the tumbler to reach a mirror polish.  If I find proof that 
>it does I will abondon this method of polishing agraffe and probably 
>cry.The great thing about the tumbler is that it cleans every part 
>of every screw, hinge etc even inside the slots, threads and holes. 
>I gather all my hardware and toss it in and forget about it for 
>three days and that beats the hours I've spent at the buffing wheel. 
>I ordered it through MSC but I have a catalog for the actual maker 
>if you're intrigued.
>
>
>Bechstein's are fun, aren't they, with the thick agraffes up in the treble?
>Paul
>
>Oh yeah, they're a treat! What a great agraffe though with that 
>hardened steel rod. I found that you have to go in order and get 
>them perfectly installed before you move on to the next one. I also 
>had much more difficulty getting them locked down in the right 
>position. I definitely should have kept this set in order and with 
>the original shims which are thinner than anything available through 
>Scaff or Pianotek.
>
>By the way are there any other options for new agraffes for other 
>makes. If you're going to mess around with this you're eventually 
>gonna be caught with a broken agraffe. I broke one on a Knabe last 
>year and boy was that a pain.  I went fishing through piano 
>junkyards all over town pulling off samples. Most of these pianos 
>were on on their sides, crunched together. Fun. There are may 
>variations of threads, height and unison spacing.
>Jude Reveley, RPT
>Absolute Piano Restoration, LLC
>Boston, Massachusetts
>
>

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