Hi Gene. Yes, thats more or less the general description I remember. The printouts I'm interested in were not in the handout, but were lying on the table in front. He did show each of them as part of his talk on the matter. I was just wondering if anyone had copies of these they would be kind enough to send my way. I believe these were based only on a modeling of the concept and that no actual measurements have been taken. Cheers RicB Ric, As I recall from Ron's class the concept was that the treble end of the bridge - under load - acts as a fulcrum - it transfers bearing load to the curved part of the long bridge in the killer octave area. The case being made that more bearing load happens there than you would think. The only formula on the handout was for sizing ribs as support beams and deflection under load. I can scan it into Word if you like - I do not think that Ron would mind. Gene
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