Hi Dave Right you are. Fortunatly my spread sheet had it right.. I just typed it in wrong. I more or less followed your reasoning. But I didnt use your angle d. Used the Cosinus longform ( c^2 = a^2 + b^2 - 2ab * Cos C) sentence to get the undeflected string length, then figured the front and back angles by way of Sin C / c = Sin A / a = Sin B / b. That yeilds the rest... component angles of C and height. Which in turn yeild force vector values for the undeflected string, the deflected strings downwards force as a whole, and the componet values of this last for front and back lengths. Sorry bout the lengthy numbers... :)... just copied straight from a still very rough spreadsheet. Cheers RicB --------- Ric, I think the String Angle from front termination = 0.66 deg and the angle from the aliquot/hitchpin = 1.33 deg You got them swapped. Just by observation, the angle from the front should be smaller than the back since the speaking length is larger than the back length. (By the way, I was less bothered by the commas than by the 10 digits of precision. Any more than 2 or 3 digits doesn't mean much.) I have attached a diagram to show how I think you arrived at these numbers. The red line represents the string. The angle at the bridge is c. The string displacement is the length Z. a is the front angle, b is the back angle. Z = X sin(a) Z = Y sin(b) d = a + b where d = (180 - c) therefore X sin(a) = Y sin(b) so sin a = (Y/X) sin( d - a ) = (25/50) sin( 2deg - a ) solving for a (transcendental equation): a = arcsin ( (1/2) sin( 2 - a ) ) this gives a = 0.66 deg, b = 1.33 deg , Z = .58 mm (Actually for such small angles, it's a pretty good approximation simply to say a = (1/2)b d = a + b which gives you the same result to the 4th decimal place) The force can be considered as vectors similar to the triangle of lengths, where the "X" and "Y" contributions are added: force = 160 lbs ( sin(a) + sin(b) ) = 5.58 lbs -- someone correct me if I'm wrong. --
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