This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Hi Richard, I'm glad Im joing the guild. Unfortunately I don' t have anyone to work = under or with,b ut I have a great chapter I'm joining plus this list and = God's help all wrapped in one educational bundle. =20 I joined a guild that's going to make it a little of a challange to get = to, but my wife and I can stay over night and bring our 6month old, and = that works out pretty well. I'm so excited about joining, and as my = wife says, I don' t get excited aboutmuch of anything except her, God, = piano tuning and freelance writing. ;) =20 Marshall ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Richard Moody=20 To: 'Pianotech List'=20 Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 3:07 AM Subject: RE: Upgrading.....JUST DO IT! The "upgrading" problem could be solved I think, if there were a third = category of members, that of Apprentice--- apropos of an organization = calling itself a guild. =20 A piano tuner technician, I have had 12 years full time self employed = experience after 6 years of apprenticeship and working for others in a = major metropolitan area. I wasn't a Guild member because the people I = studied under were not. They being over 60 in 1972, preceded the = Guild. But I knew about the Guild and substituted tuning for 2 Guild = members and they for me on occasion. But business was so good I had no = time for meetings or the convention even. One member offered to let me = read his Journals and I didn't even take advantage of that. (but I = should have). After I moved to the country and became "semi retired" and 8 years = later I found www.ptg.org on line and finally decided to join which = makes you Associate with the opportunity/option to upgrade to RPT But so far the category of "associate" is fine for me as it includes a = subscription to the Journal, the membership rates for the conventions = and access to ptg on line services. From the conventions and internet = I know more than a few technicians and "members of allied trades" who = are chose to remain "associate" mainly because they specialize in tuning = only or rebuilding (and don't tune), design and/or manufacture pianos = (but don't tune) and one retired professor who as a teenager spent a = summer with a piano tuner thinking he might pursue that career. Good = thing he got his PhD in music and ended up in academia. But good for us = as he is a major supporter and contributor to his local chapter.=20 For me local chapter involvement has always been out of the = question. Back in the 80's I was simply to busy and now it is nearly = 300 miles round trip to meet with 3 or 4 techs that I could do by = online conference if that was available.=20 Now if there were a category of "apprentice" then the debate about = upgrading would be relegated there. Then the "apprentice" would have the = encouragement and resources of both RPTs and Associates to upgrade to = RPT. =20 I also believe RPT should be eligible for certificates they could add = to their resumes like aural tuning, machine tuning, "Certified = Rebuilder" a certificate indicating playing level, or a level above RPT = called Master. The name Guild begs this IMHO.=20 Richard Moody Ass. oops associate..=20 www.pnotec.com=20 "One doesn't discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of = the shore for a very long time." Andr=E9 Gide (1859-1951); French writer. -----Original Message----- From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On = Behalf Of RON MAY, RPT Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 2:11 PM To: Pianotech List Subject: Re: Upgrading.....JUST DO IT! Marshall and all other Associates. If you have had any training in tuning, get in touch with several of = the RPT's in your group. Have them check your tuning. Don't be = afraid--they are there to help not hurt. If they think you are anywhere = ready for the tuning exam, TAKE IT. It will be the best (I think it is ) = $90 bucks you have or will spend. If you flunk the test like many do you = will still walk away from the test knowing all of your weak spots and = know what to work on.=20 Ron May. RPT ----- Original Message -----=20 From: pianotune05=20 To: Pianotech List=20 Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 7:53 AM Subject: Re: Upgrading..... I've heard quite a bit about upgrading. I'm going to m first = meeting on the 21st of the month, and I can hardly wait. :) My question = to you guys is this, how long should an associate wait until they become = an RPT? Perhaps there's a comfort zone factor involved with some = associates, fear of taking the test etc. I'm just guessing of course, = but perhaps there's a fear a failure. I know I personally struggle with = this, but at the same time, I'm determined to become an RPT. =20 Marshall ----- Original Message -----=20 From: John Formsma=20 To: 'Pianotech List'=20 Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 12:06 AM Subject: RE: Upgrading..... Ron, Yes, yes - there must be a way to promote excellence. And, = "Craftsman" and "Certified" are much more descriptive. I prefer either = of those to "Registered." Isn't it a problem that PTG comes up with the terms, but it's we = who have to do the educating?=20 John Formsma -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] = On Behalf Of RON MAY, RPT Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 10:27 PM To: Pianotech List Subject: Re: Upgrading..... Hi People Until the day comes that the public becomes educated, aware and = demands expertise and professional performance or heaven forbid the = government becomes involved and demands licensing such as that demanded = for other trades such as plumbers and electricians, we are just = lighting a fire under and empty skillet. Now that anyone can show = themselves as a member of PTG and we have come up with "Registered" = members, which no one has the slightest idea about instead off craftsman = ratings or some other descriptive rating there is only one motivation = and that is from within.. Unfortunately not very many seem to have this = motivation or pride in their work and profession. Whether we are RPTs, = Certified Tuner Technicians,or craftsman, getting the message out is up = to we individual technicians and most of us are busy and have become = very complacent about the problem. To me Certified says a whole lot more = than registered. I'm "Registered" to vote in Florida and we all know = what that means but obviously some don't know how to do it. We as PTG just continue to shoot ourselves in the foot on this = issue. Something needs to be done and it needs to become a priority. Ron May=20 ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/25/5e/cf/e1/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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