Upgrading.....JUST DO IT!

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Hi Richard,
I'm glad Im joing the guild.  Unfortunately I don' t have anyone to work =
under or with,b ut I have a great chapter I'm joining plus this list and =
 God's help all wrapped in one educational bundle. =20

I joined a guild that's going to make it a little of a challange to get =
to, but my wife and I can stay over night and bring our 6month old, and =
that works out pretty well.  I'm so excited about joining, and as my =
wife says, I don' t get excited aboutmuch of anything except her, God, =
piano tuning and freelance writing. ;) =20
Marshall
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Richard Moody=20
  To: 'Pianotech List'=20
  Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 3:07 AM
  Subject: RE: Upgrading.....JUST DO IT!


  The "upgrading" problem could be solved I think, if there were a third =
category of members, that of Apprentice---   apropos of an organization =
calling itself a guild. =20



  A  piano tuner technician, I have had 12 years full time self employed =
experience after 6 years of apprenticeship and working for others in a =
major metropolitan area.  I wasn't a Guild member because the people I =
studied under were not.   They being over 60 in 1972, preceded the =
Guild.   But I knew about the Guild and substituted tuning for 2 Guild =
members and they for me on occasion.  But business was so good I had no =
time for meetings or the convention even.  One member offered to let me =
read his Journals and I didn't even take advantage of that.  (but I =
should have).

     After I moved to the country and became "semi retired" and 8 years =
later  I found  www.ptg.org  on line and finally decided to join which =
makes you Associate with the opportunity/option to upgrade to RPT



  But so far the category of "associate" is fine for me as it includes a =
subscription to the Journal, the membership rates for the conventions =
and access to ptg  on line services.  From the conventions and internet =
I know more than a few technicians and "members of allied trades" who =
are chose to remain "associate" mainly because they specialize in tuning =
only or rebuilding (and don't tune), design and/or manufacture pianos =
(but don't tune) and one retired professor who as a  teenager spent a =
summer with a piano tuner thinking he might pursue that career.   Good =
thing he got his PhD in music and ended up in academia.  But good for us =
as he is a major supporter and contributor to his local chapter.=20



    For me local chapter involvement has always been out of the =
question.  Back in the 80's I was simply to busy and now it is nearly =
300 miles round trip to  meet with 3 or 4 techs that I could do by =
online conference if that was available.=20



  Now if there were a category of "apprentice" then the debate about =
upgrading would be relegated there. Then the "apprentice" would have the =
encouragement and resources of both RPTs and Associates to upgrade to =
RPT.   =20



  I also believe RPT should be eligible for certificates they could add =
to their resumes like aural tuning, machine tuning, "Certified =
Rebuilder"  a certificate indicating playing level, or a level above RPT =
called Master.  The name Guild begs this IMHO.=20



  Richard Moody     Ass.     oops   associate..=20

  www.pnotec.com=20



  "One doesn't discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of =
the shore for a very long time."

  Andr=E9 Gide (1859-1951); French writer.













  -----Original Message-----
  From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On =
Behalf Of RON MAY, RPT
  Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 2:11 PM
  To: Pianotech List
  Subject: Re: Upgrading.....JUST DO IT!



   Marshall and all other Associates.



  If you have had any training in tuning, get in touch with several of =
the RPT's in your group. Have them check your tuning. Don't be =
afraid--they are there to help not hurt.  If they think you are anywhere =
ready for the tuning exam, TAKE IT. It will be the best (I think it is ) =
$90 bucks you have or will spend. If you flunk the test like many do you =
will still walk away from the test knowing all of your weak spots and =
know what to work on.=20



  Ron May. RPT

    ----- Original Message -----=20

    From: pianotune05=20

    To: Pianotech List=20

    Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 7:53 AM

    Subject: Re: Upgrading.....



    I've heard quite a bit about upgrading.  I'm going to m first =
meeting on the 21st of the month, and I can hardly wait. :)  My question =
to you guys is this, how long should an associate wait until they become =
an RPT?  Perhaps there's a comfort zone factor involved with some =
associates, fear of taking the test etc.  I'm just guessing of course, =
but perhaps there's a fear a failure.  I know I personally struggle with =
this, but at the same time, I'm determined to become an RPT. =20

    Marshall

      ----- Original Message -----=20

      From: John Formsma=20

      To: 'Pianotech List'=20

      Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 12:06 AM

      Subject: RE: Upgrading.....



      Ron,





      Yes, yes - there must be a way to promote excellence. And, =
"Craftsman" and "Certified" are much more descriptive. I prefer either =
of those to "Registered."



      Isn't it a problem that PTG comes up with the terms, but it's we =
who have to do the educating?=20



      John Formsma




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      From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] =
On Behalf Of RON MAY, RPT
      Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 10:27 PM
      To: Pianotech List
      Subject: Re: Upgrading.....



      Hi People



      Until the day comes that the public  becomes educated,  aware and =
demands expertise and professional performance or heaven forbid the =
government becomes involved and demands licensing such as that demanded =
for other  trades such as plumbers and electricians, we are just =
lighting a fire under and empty skillet. Now that anyone can show =
themselves as a member of PTG and we have come up with "Registered" =
members, which no one has the slightest idea about instead off craftsman =
ratings or some other descriptive rating there is only one motivation =
and that is from within.. Unfortunately not very many seem to have this =
motivation or pride in their work and profession. Whether we are RPTs, =
Certified Tuner Technicians,or craftsman, getting the message out is up =
to we individual technicians and most of us are busy and have become =
very complacent about the problem. To me Certified says a whole lot more =
than registered. I'm "Registered" to vote in Florida and we all know =
what that means but obviously some don't know how to do it.



      We as PTG just continue to shoot ourselves in the foot on this =
issue. Something needs to be done and it needs to become a priority.



      Ron May=20



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