I'm curious, speaking of hight notes on the piano. Is that a good sign that a tuning is a good tuning when the piano has that bright clear ring sound in the trebble? I tuned a spinit last week that sounded louder according to one of the volunteers at the nursing home where I tuned. In fact, I have a customer tomorrow who works there and reports that it sounded tinny before, but I mentioned resonants, blame spelling on my wife if incorrect. ;) Anyway, my tuning of a grand piano yesterday revealed that the trebble sounded louder, brighter and full of a crisp clear ring sound. Does this represent anything in particular? Marshall ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maggie Jusiel" <mags@magsmusic.net> To: <pianotech@ptg.org> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 6:42 PM Subject: Re: temperaments - choosing ? stretched ? not stretched ? > Hi Philippe, > > I'd like to share some of my experiences with this topic, but would > first like to point out that I'm still in the learning process. ;) > > I was learning aurally first, but didn't get lots of the details I > needed and didn't have good pianos to practice on. I never got to the > point where I trusted myself, so I use TuneLab. However, if I set a > temperament with TuneLab, then tune the rest of the piano to that, I get > a very nice tuning with an interesting characteristic... I will tune > the upper octaves to what I hear as being "pure" with no beats, but will > end up with a stretch that is anywhere from 10 cents to 40 cents > stretched (according to TuneLab). I believe this to be my ear hearing > more of the harmonics instead of the fundamental, and lining those up. > The end result is always satisfying, so I go with it. The variation > from piano to piano points out that each piano is different, and putting > a "stretch" on it should line up harmonics, not just must make the top > end sharp. Too much of a stretch is just as bad as not enough. Even > two pianos of the same model can end up different depending on how they > were taken care of over the years. > > I'm not sure if others have this same experience. I do know that I had > my hearing tested and had a deficit in the lower registers, but was off > the charts in what I could hear in the higher registers. I have a > feeling most tuners could hear what I am hearing, though. > > Last thing... I've found that many tuners start out setting equal > temperament, but end up with a variation of a mean-tone temperament, > which works just fine. > > ...hope this was helpful... :D > > -mags > > > Maggie Jusiel > Piano Tuner > Winds & Strings Teacher > PO Box 1234 > Athens, WV 24712-1234 > (304)952-8615 > <mags@magsmusic.net> > <http://www.magsmusic.net> > > > >> Hi all, >> >> I'm currently studying temperaments, and I wonder if a tuner always use a >> stretched temperament, >> especially since this doesn't seems quite compatible with the use of >> electronic tuning devices. >> (for the not aural tuners...) >> >> This question, especially since I've a CD with reference tones for a >> stretched temperament, which >> seems quite strange since a stretched temperament should depend on the >> kind of piano, shouldn't >> they ? So what ? >> >> subsidiary question : as a tuner, do you prefer to use equal temperament >> ? >> or do you prefer to use >> another one ? (which one) ... Or do your clients often have their >> specific >> requests ? (in this case >> what are you commonly asked ?) >> >> Philippe Errembault > > > > > > Maggie Jusiel > Piano Tuner > Winds & Strings Teacher > PO Box 1234 > Athens, WV 24712-1234 > (304)952-8615 > <mags@magsmusic.net> > <http://www.magsmusic.net> > > > <http://www.casparwicky.net/quotepage.html> > > _______________________________________________ > Pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives
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