Mose...past tense Grin... Hubert ----- Original Message ----- From: "pianotune05" <pianotune05@comcast.net> To: "Pianotech List" <pianotech@ptg.org> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 1:13 PM Subject: Re: mice in the piano > A mose infected piano is how they might say it if they are speaking inner > city lingo like > "yo wat up dog. just chill'n in the crib, and I found a mose in da piano" > Marshall > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "cook" <cityman1@locnet.net> > To: "Pianotech List" <pianotech@ptg.org> > Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 1:21 PM > Subject: Re: mice in the piano > > > > Lord, now I'm doing it...."mose- infESTED" > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "cook" <cityman1@locnet.net> > > To: "Pianotech List" <pianotech@ptg.org> > > Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 12:17 PM > > Subject: Re: mice in the piano > > > > > >> Excuse me, Gordon- just what IS a "mose- infected" piano. Sounds dang > >> dangerous to me! > >> > >> Sorry- > >> Henry Cook > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "gordon stelter" <lclgcnp@yahoo.com> > >> To: "Pianotech List" <pianotech@ptg.org> > >> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 11:44 AM > >> Subject: Re: mice in the piano > >> > >> > >> > If you don't thoroughly clean the interior of the > >> > piano, you will be putting whomever plays it in danger > >> > as they, encouraged by the tuning, pound away on it > >> > and kick up the residue under the keys, and breathe > >> > it. But cleaning it will put you in danger. Much has > >> > been written here about mouse-infested pianos, and you > >> > should check the archives. I was coughing up blood for > >> > a month once from tuning a mose-infested piano, and > >> > ended up at the hospital. Beware. If the infestation > >> > is more than minor, tell her to get a different > >> > piano, and burn this one. > >> > Most definitely don't give it to a poor family > >> > "for their kids to learn on. " ( What rich people > >> > usually do with infectious, dangerous pianos, in my > >> > experience. ) > >> > G > >> > G > >> > > >> > --- pianotune05 <pianotune05@comcast.net> wrote: > >> > > >> > > Hi everyone, > >> > > I got a call today from a lady who told me that > >> > > there is evidence of mice in the piano, or past > >> > > mouse activity. I'm going over to take a look at > >> > > the piano tomorrow. Actually, she's willing to pick > >> > > me up. She drives Mercedes, an old one she tells me. > >> > > If the spelling is incorrect, blame my wife.:) > >> > > > >> > > Anyway, I won't do anything with the keys and action > >> > > of the bridal straps are missing until I learn that > >> > > repair. However, I want to accomodate her the best > >> > > I can. She wants it tuned, but a couple of keys > >> > > will go down but not up. I'm guessing there's a > >> > > mouse nest in the key bed, however, is there > >> > > something I can do in order to give that key a quick > >> > > free up so it will go back up before I learn that > >> > > bridal strap repair etc? Also, I read in one of > >> > > our past journals some time back that lavender > >> > > placed inside the piano helps keep mice away. Where > >> > > do I purchase lavender? > >> > > > >> > > I apologize if this is a question already exists in > >> > > the archives as one guy on here reamed mb about a > >> > > while back, but i'ts a lot easier than hunting down > >> > > an archive. Thanks so much everyone. > >> > > Marshall > >> > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > > From: Aart in America Piano Services > >> > > To: Pianotech List > >> > > Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 7:15 PM > >> > > Subject: harpsichord > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > Hi Blaine. > >> > > > >> > > Thank you so much for taking the time to compose > >> > > this very informative and helpful email. > >> > > The directions you have provided are invaluable! > >> > > > >> > > I'll let you and the other good folks on the > >> > > list know how it comes out. > >> > > > >> > > Very best regards, > >> > > > >> > > Aart > >> > > > >> > > Aart in America Piano Services > >> > > Hoboken, N.J. 07030 > >> > > 201 406 2594 > >> > > aartinamerica@optonline.net > >> > > > >> > > On Feb 16, 2006, at 9:01 AM, Blaine Vesely > >> > > wrote: > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > Aart, > >> > > I get pianotech in digest form and have > >> > > minimal time to read everything, but your post > >> > > prompted this email. Don't even worry about taking > >> > > inharmonicity measurements with a SAT2 since the > >> > > machine does not go below 2.0 I think. A > >> > > harpsichord modelled after an old Baroque French > >> > > Double (sounds like this is the kind you will be > >> > > working on) will not have much inharmonicity. Just > >> > > use the 4th octave settings on your SAT to tune from > >> > > B4 to the bottom of the harpsichord. A4 will be > >> > > more toward the treble than the bass side of the > >> > > keyboard assuming a compass of F to F. Probably the > >> > > second A from the top of the range on the keyboard. > >> > > When you tune the C5 to top of the keyboard, you may > >> > > have to insert some stretch alittle, but not much. > >> > > You can use the individual settings and tune the > >> > > notes directly, like set machine to D5 and tune D5, > >> > > D#5 and tune D#5. This gets you in the ballpark > >> > > pretty much. Then use your ear to test if some > >> > > stretch is needed. On a French Double, you will > >> > > have two 8 foots and a 4 foot. I usually tune the > >> > > top manual. It will only operate one set of 8 foot > >> > > strings. You must make sure the top keyboard is > >> > > coupled. Slide the whole keyboard front or back and > >> > > it will couple the keyboard to the jacks. When you > >> > > get the top manual tuned, then play the bottom > >> > > manual. Make sure you only have the second set of 8 > >> > > foot strings coupled, and not the 4 foot. Tune > >> > > unisons using the bottom keyboard. Usually the 8 > >> > > foot strings are the tuning pins closest to the > >> > > player. Then turn off the 8 foot (lever that moves > >> > > the jacks) and turn on the 4 foot and tune. The top > >> > > 4 foot strings are hard sometimes to hear and you > >> > > may have to uncouple the top manual and tune octaves > >> > > with just the 4 foot, usually it is only the last > >> > > several strings because they are so quiet and high > >> > > pitched. > >> > > > >> > > Concerning tuning pins, if you have to replace > >> > > a string, you really have to back out the tuning pin > >> > > all the way if it has tapered tuning pins. If it > >> > > has what look like miniature tuning pins that are > >> > > straight, then put coils on a dummy pin and then > >> > > copy what the other strings look like. I have not > >> > > done any stringing with pins that have no becket, to > >> > > if that is the case, you will just have to practice > >> > > and when you get comfortable with it, go back to the > >> > > customer. The pins generally for harpsichords that > >> > > are of a traditional nature are designed to get > >> > > tighter when tapped in and thus tapered. So take > >> > > the pin out, put the string in (you might want to > >> > > take the jacks out) and cut it maybe 8 inches longer > >> > > than the tuning pin. Copy the way the string is on > >> > > the pin and it helps to maintain adequate tension > >> > > when coiling the string on the pin, and drive the > >> > > pin in the hole. I have also been told that when > >> > > you bring the string up to tension that you should > >> > > leave it a little bit under pitch, maybe 50 - 100 > >> > > cents for a few minutes. Someone told me that it > >> > > does something to the molecules in the iron strings > >> > > and makes it stronger. Then bring it up to full > >> > > tension. Oh yes, the low inharmonicity and lower > >> > > pitch when stringing thing I just talked about > >> > > applies to instruments with red, yellow brass and > >> > > iron strings. If you know that the instrument has > >> > > steel strings or has strings that are wound, then > >> > > there is probably more inharmonicity and will need > >> > > some stretch eventually in tuning. One way to tell > >> > > iron from steel is that when you bend or kink iron, > >> > > it will be easier to bend and will give you a > >> > > definite kink. Steel is harder to put a kink in it. > >> > > > >> > > Some fast thoughts, have fun with it. > >> > > > >> > > Blaine Vesely, Piano Technician > >> > > Kent State University > >> > > School of Music > >> > > Kent, Ohio 44242 > >> > > office: 330-672-2898 > >> > > fax: 330-672-7837 > >> > > email: bvesely@kent.edu > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > __________________________________________________ > >> > Do You Yahoo!? > >> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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