I beg to differ. Tuning forks don't come in as many decorator colors as vacuum cleaners. It's important to have a well coordinated tool palette. Anon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason Kanter" <jkanter@rollingball.com> To: "'Pianotech List'" <pianotech@ptg.org> Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 9:30 PM Subject: RE: beginner seeking advice re:VTDs (vacuum tuning devices) > Philippe, I fear that you are serious about this. The idea of using a > vacuum > cleaner as a pitch source is nonsense; forget it. Buy a tuning fork > immediately. > > -----Original Message----- > From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On > Behalf > Of Conrad Hoffsommer > Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 6:52 PM > To: Pianotech List > Subject: Re: beginner seeking advice re:VTDs (vacuum tuning devices) > > Philippe, > > At 19:07 3/2/2006, you wrote: >>Hi, >> >>I'm new to tuning too and I don't have a tuning fork yet, I'd like to >>try the vacuum cleaner tuning first. >>a few questions : > > a few answers interspersed: > > >>1/ I suppose all vacuum cleaners are not tuned on the same pitch. > > No more than pianos are at the same pitch leaving the factory and arriving > at the showroom. > > >> Is there a Vacuum Cleaner tone Reference List (VCTRL) available >> somewhere on the net ? > > Sounds like doctoral thesis material... > > >> Does this also word with kitchen vacuum ? > > I only have one for the entire house, so I wouldn't know about a > dedicated kitchen unit. > > >>2/ I suppose the pitch depends on the temperature... > > Of course, and since different models have different length and > diameters of hoses, wands and heads/nozzles, there would have to be a > certain amount of stretch to consider to determine the resonant > frequency/pitch. > > >>Should I wait for my Vacuum cleaner to stabilise ? > > Of course!! Proper feng shui will help. > > >>How long ? > > Somewhere between a fortnight and quinze jours. > > >>3/ I'm in europe and we are supplied in 220V 50Hz. Do you think this >>can make a difference in pitch for the same model of vacuum cleaner >>between Europe and US ? > > If they were synchronous, that would make a big difference, but since > most have induction motors it depends... why is there air? > > >>4/ If for any reason I had to use a supplemental power supply >>cable... Is there a risk that it infuences my reference pitch ? > > It all depends what you're referring to. Is that a pitch, as in cricket? > > >>Should I pay attention to this ? > > No more than most people do to me. > > >>5/ May I use the same vacuum cleaner for the tone reference and to >>clean the piano ? > > That would depend on how many parts you suspect will get sucked up. > Damper felt will clog the bag very quickly and change the pitch. > Your call... > > >>Thank you for you answers, >>Philippe > > Thank you for providing the questions. > > > > > Conrad Hoffsommer > You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say will be > misquoted, then used against you. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > > > _______________________________________________ > Pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >
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