Extra crap attached to e-mails -- OT

[Horace Greeley]

Hi, Rob,

At 09:06 PM 4/4/2007, you wrote:
>It has just come to my attention that when I send e-mails to the 
>list it is attaching a lot of extra crap- apparently needless 
>network information.  Has anyone else found this when they open my 
>mail?  I sent a test mail to myself and it wasn't there.  I found no 
>unusual settings in the "options" or "tools" settings.
>
>Rob Goodale, RPT
>Las Vegas, NV

OK...pulling the headers out where they can be seen gives this information:

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X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.3
Delivered-To: hgreeley at stanford.edu
From: "Rob & Helen Goodale" <rrg at unlv.nevada.edu>
To: "Pianotech List" <pianotech at ptg.org>
Subject: Extra crap attached to e-mails --  OT
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 21:06:43 -0700
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028
X-Spam-Status: No
X-Spam-Score: -1.716, threshold=4.5, rules_hit=AWL, BAYES_00,
         DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS, HTML_50_60, HTML_MESSAGE, SPF_FAIL
X-Spam-Level: []
X-Spam-Report: NSHE SCS, griffith-peak.scsv.nevada.edu, Wed,
         04 Apr 2007 21:06:50 -0700
         SpamAssassin 3.0.4, 2005-06-05 [spam threshold=4.5 pts]
         -1.7 total points [autolearn=no], summary follows:
         pts rule name              description
         ---- ----------------------
         --------------------------------------------------
         0.9 SPF_FAIL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (fail)
         [SPF failed: Please see
         http://spf.pobox.com/why.html?sender=rrg%40unlv.nevada.edu&ip=131.216.128.62&receiver=griffith-peak.scsv.nevada.edu]
         0.1 HTML_50_60             BODY: Message is 50% to 60% HTML
         -2.6 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1%
         [score: 0.0000]
         0.0 HTML_MESSAGE           BODY: HTML included in message
         0.3 DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS RBL: Envelope sender in whois.rfc-ignorant.org
         -0.4 AWL AWL: From: address is in the auto white-list
X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.51 on 131.216.1.15
X-BeenThere: pianotech at ptg.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7
Reply-To: Pianotech List <pianotech at ptg.org>
Sender: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org

It has just come to my attention that when I send e-mails to the list 
it is attaching a lot of extra crap- apparently needless network 
information.  Has anyone else found this when they open my mail?  I 
sent a test mail to myself and it wasn't there.  I found no unusual 
settings in the "options" or "tools" settings.

Rob Goodale, RPT
Las Vegas, NV

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No, I have not found this to be the case with your posts.

It may be that you have some HTML stuff buried someplace (which some 
EM readers do not like very much), or that MS Outlook is just 
misbehaving.  Most of the above looks to me like the normal kind of 
stuff that gets added when messages are pushed out between various 
mail servers.  In your case, someone at UNLV has added a Spam 
Assassin scan to outgoing mail...though why they would burn the CPU 
cycles to scan outbound mail eludes me (unless they are trying to 
avoid being "black-listed" by someone like AOL or Earthlink, or, more 
likely, protect the University from its own students).

If folks are seeing junk as part of EM messages that you are sending 
out (which I have not seen, yet), they might also be running some 
older or non-main-stream EM reader.  (We still have some folks at 
Stanford who insist on using "Pine" for EM...and then whine about it 
barfing on just about everything...go figure.)  I occasionally get 
forwards/messages from some folks who are running older versions of 
things like Apple Mail or Microsoft Mail which sometimes have to be 
opened as a text file to legible.  Sometimes, if it is too egregious 
to deal with, I simply send back what I get from them.

Part of the problem with the design of the communications protocols 
used on the 'Net is that, in trying to be all things to all people, 
there is very little that they actually do very well...just a whole 
bunch of stuff in a rather ho-hum, hap-hazard kind of way...which 
mostly works.  The point is, one cannot possibly please all of the 
people all of the time...it's one of those Aural v. ETD kinds of 
problems...e.g., one with no one "right" answer.

Hope this is of some help.

Best.

Horace
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