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[Dean May]

Subject: RE: Data logger
Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 16:03:44 -0400
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The patent covers using the undercover as part of a humidity control system.
I don't see how they can object to using it as an appearance enhancing
addition. 

JoAnn Fabrics carries the speaker cloth. If you get their flyer they
regularly offer 40% off which puts the price around $7/yd. 

For 1" Velcro squares: http://www.fastenation.com/class.php?id=36
900/roll for around $65.

For vertical pianos, use heat activated double stick tape available in
fabric stores. I remove the lid hinges, staple the fabric across the top,
then use the double stick tape down the sides. Then prop up one end of the
piano at a time (6 song books work), fold the cloth underneath and staple
across the bottom. Use an iron to stick the sides down, then trim down the
edges. Install the hinges through the cloth. 

Get a bolt of cloth, a roll of squares and you're in business for awhile.
Cost per install is around $10. For appearance enhancement only, of course. 



-----Original Message-----
From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf
Of John Formsma
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 2:38 PM
To: Pianotech List
Subject: Re: Data logger

I remember some legal stuff on the list a while back. Not being a
lawyer, I couldn't tell you if that kind of stuff can be patented. I
mean, after all, it's not like DC invented any new material. They are
packaging what is already available, and making it convenient for us
to buy in a small and ready-to-use package (not to mention a very
expensive package). But all those materials are available elsewhere,
and I don't see why it would be wrong to purchase it on your own. I
don't because it has been more convenient to order as needed. However,
if I were installing systems on a monthly basis, I'd probably look
into buying things in bulk to save some $.

JF

On 4/28/07, Marcel Carey <mcpiano at videotron.ca> wrote:
> I've had bad luck with velcros so now I only staple them on. I save time
and
> I might have to remove a few staples for service later. I was lucky so far
> to find material but I'm always looking at bargains in fabric stores. Not
> sure if there could be legal (read copyright laws) that could prevent me
> from not buying the stuff from Dampp Chaser. Their price is just way too
> expensive for what the material is.
>
> Marcel Carey
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On
Behalf
> Of Joe And Penny Goss
> Sent: 28 avril 2007 12:02
> To: Pianotech List
> Subject: Re: Data logger
>
> Hi, I use Speaker ( AMP ) cover cloth available at most fabric stores.
Sort
> of stretchy stuff.
> One can use the top lid as a template. Attach with velcro strips about 1"
> square every 4 to 6"s
> The strips can be stapled to the cloth, and to the bottom of the piano,
for
> a more secure attachment.
> The cloth velcro should be attached so that one folds the cloth to attach
to
> the bottom of the piano.
> PIANO
> PIANO
> VELCRO 1
> VELCRO 1
> VELCRO 2
> VELCRO2
> ---------------- Cut cloth
> Cut cloth---------
>
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --COVER------------------------------------
> I like to attach all velcro strips to the piano first using the
non-grabbing
> side.
> Then starting at the keybed treble side, and working arround the straight
> side of the piano attaching the cloth as I go, with the grabbing side
velcro
> stapling the tabs where needed.
>
> Joe Goss RPT
> Mother Goose Tools
> imatunr at srvinet.com
> www.mothergoosetools.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Clark Sprague" <CSPRAGUE4 at woh.rr.com>
> To: "Pianotech List" <pianotech at ptg.org>
> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 8:27 AM
> Subject: Re: Data logger
>
>
> > Where do you all get these undercovers?  Do you make them yourselves, or
> buy
> > them commercially?  Clark A. Sprague, RPT
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Kent Swafford" <kswafford at gmail.com>
> > To: "Pianotech List" <pianotech at ptg.org>
> > Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 6:19 PM
> > Subject: Re: Data logger
> >
> >
> > > No. Those systems were before the days of undercovers. Undercovers
are
> a
> > > _big_ improvement.
> > >
> > > That I can think of, I have single-tank systems with undercovers on
an
> O
> > > and an A; they work fine, but with the larger pianos, I go with
> > > dual-tanks.
> > >
> > > Kent
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>