Piano Training Question (Long)

David Andersen david at davidandersenpianos.com
Sun Aug 5 13:14:21 MDT 2007


Wow. What a great post. Thank you so much, Israel, for your time,  
love and commitment. Good job.
David Andersen



On Aug 5, 2007, at 8:55 AM, Israel Stein wrote:

> To the list,
>
> I have been watching this discussion with a great deal of interest,  
> because I have been involved in aspects of technician training  
> through my work with the PTG in various capacities for many years  
> now - first on the chapter level, then on the national - and  
> perhaps international - scene. For years now I have been observing  
> technical skills attained through various learning paths as  
> demonstrated on PTG exams and working on developing methodologies  
> to fill the voids left by the typical trial-and-error or  
> correspondence school training that most practitioners in our field  
> bring to the profession. So to the extent that I can, I'll share my  
> observations.
>
> My own background is an echo of what others have posted. After a  
> career in commercial photography fizzled out, I got interested in  
> piano technology (after having built a kit harpsichord -  but  
> that's a different story.)  First I tried to tech myself using the  
> Reblitz book - after all, how difficult could it be? I found that  
> book quite flawed - there were a bunch of processes and procedures  
> described, but no overall understanding of why one was supposed to  
> do things this way or that way and no good understanding of how to  
> judge the results (most obviously of a regulation, but in other  
> contexts too). It was sort of flying blind - you follow the recipe  
> and trust that the result is correct, because Arthur says so... I  
> then signed up for a correspondence course - not Randy Potter's -  
> and found the same problem. I was doing assignments, learning  
> nomenclature and processes, but the piano I was working on didn't  
> seem to be improving much... And I had no idea what my tuning  
> sounded like, objectively speaking - even though I counted beats  
> until I couldn't hear them any more... Then life intervened...
>
> Some years later I got an opportunity to move to Boston and attend  
> the North Bennet Street School for 2 years, and I found out that my  
> initial judgements about the Reblitz and the correspondence course  
> were basically correct. The processes and procedures being taught  
> in those media were hit-or-miss at best and plain incorrect in some  
> cases. I did have a leg up on the other students in terms of  
> nomenclature - quite a bit of money spent on something I would have  
> learned anyway... I did come away from the correspondence course  
> with a nice three-ring binder which still holds some of my NBSS  
> notes...
>
> At NBSS I got a good background on which to build a comprehensive  
> approach to piano technology - both the tuning and technical end of  
> it. And passed the RPT exams on the first try without a hitch  
> before completing my first year at school. And after a bit of  
> struggling (I am not very good at promoting myself) I have been  
> able to make a decent living at it, build two businesses - one in  
> Boston and after moving another one in California - worked   
> Steinway C & A in Boston a couple years after finishing school, and  
> now also hold a half-time University job which gets me health  
> insurance and retirement benefits - besides running a very busy  
> practice.
>
> I will concentrate on the technical end - because that's where my  
> testing and educational efforts have been concentrated.
>
> Without a good conceptual grasp of the nature of the technology on  
> which the piano is based, the properties of the materials from  
> which it is built or which are used to service it, the goals of the  
> procedures one undertakes and the various possible pitfalls of  
> various approaches one is a very incomplete practitioner. To be  
> fair, some self-trained or correspondence-school trained  
> technicians develop this knowledge on their own after years of  
> experience. Many do not. And most don't have nearly enough of it in  
> the first years of their practice - resulting in misdiagnosed  
> conditions, misapplied remedies, misregulated instruments and much  
> wasted time. And clients being charged for - what?
>
> In a school environment one gets to internalize all of that  
> theoretical and intellectual underpinning as one is learning the  
> tools and the procedures. And in a school environment one gets  
> immediate feedback on the quality of one's learning. But more on  
> how important that can be later.
>
> Soon after graduating from NBSS I got involved in PTG technical  
> testing - a lot more heavily than I intended to. It was a funny  
> story. This was the time the PTG was introducing the current  
> Technical Exam (late 80s) and our committee chair couldn't make  
> heads or tails of it - since it is based on an empirical approach  
> to regulation rather than just plugging in specs from a book.  
> Apparently a novel concept for this grandfathered RTT. So he dumped  
> the whole thing in my lap. I went to a convention and learned how  
> to run the exam from an experienced examiner...
>
> Boston was (still is) a very busy testing venue - so I got a good  
> overview of the skills that technicians of various backgrounds  
> bring to the trade. Later on I went on to head the Technical  
> Testing program in the San Francisco Bay area (we have an Exam  
> Board that test all comers - but basically covers the territory of  
> 4 chapters), and for the past several years the technical testing  
> at the PTG Annual Conventions. In addition, I have organized and  
> taught various Exam Preparatory classes (that's actually a major  
> con I have been perpetrating on the students - they are actually  
> "basic skills" classes, but nobody would sign up if I called them  
> that - pride...) So after a good 100+ exams administered and some  
> dozens of classes taught I can say without equivocation that many,  
> many candidates and students with a correspondence school, self- 
> taught or mentoring backgrounds are still quite deficient in basic  
> skills.
>
> To be perfectly fair, this is not entirely the fault of the  
> correspondence courses, or the learning materials. Where there is  
> no supervised practice and immediate feedback on technique and  
> methodology, the opportunities for misunderstanding and  
> miscomprehension are endless. I have seen this in classes I have  
> taught and in some post-exam interviews - where I am pretty darn  
> sure that what the candidate or student is doing is not what the  
> author or instructor meant to convey. And sometimes it is a matter  
> of a poor grip on a tool, or an unclear sequence of actions, or a  
> misapplied technique due to poor understanding of the conceptual  
> framework on which the technique is based, or any one of dozens of  
> misconceptions and misapplications that  are easily corrected in  
> the course of continuous face-to-face instruction at a residential  
> program that are simply not addressed or not even noticed in  
> correspondence courses or self-teaching. And all materials with  
> which I am familiar - and that includes those published by the PTG  
> (which I have been for the past 3 years attempting to revise)  
> contain ineffective techniques and flawed approaches. They are all  
> based on learning recipes for procedures - and not on understanding  
> the underlying concepts, without which practitioners have no way of  
> assessing their own work or dealing with unexpected issues. To be  
> fair, some of the PTG materials do mention the importance of  
> learning the conceptual framework - but then expect the student to  
> extrapolate that from the procedures. Not effective... I hope to do  
> something about it fairly soon - if I can find the time.
>
> With mentoring the problem is different. All depends on the quality  
> of the mentors. In the past couple of years I tested several  
> candidates from a specific location all of whom were taught by a  
> mentor who appears to be superb. They displayed superior skills.  
> Other mentors seem to produce poorer results - and in some cases  
> even mislead their students with poor advice. How a beginner in the  
> field is supposed to judge the quality of a prospective mentor is  
> an insoluble problem...
>
> Over the years I have tested and taught candidates from NBSS, from  
> the Western Ontario program, from Israel, South Africa, Japan,  
> China, Spain, Norway. And many US-trained candidates who have not  
> had formal residential training. Two patterns jump right out:
>
> 1. Foreign trained technicians do a whole lot better than US  
> trained technicians.
> 2. NBSS and Western Ontario graduates in general do better than  
> those without formal residential training.
>
> I don't know how those foreign technicians were trained, but the  
> results speak for themselves. And the graduates of the formal  
> training programs in general display a much more confident and  
> methodical approach to the exam tasks than many (not all) of the  
> others. I have on occasion come across students and candidates  
> without formal training who displayed superior skills after a  
> fairly short period of self-teaching. My conversations with them  
> usually reveal that they have undertaken a very disciplined and  
> methodical approach to training themselves - with substantial daily  
> practice sessions, not going on to the next task until having  
> mastered the previous one, a relationship with several mentors who  
> could serve as a check on their progress, etc. In other words, they  
> invested the time and effort in themselves to learn the craft  
> properly - often at the sacrifice of some income. My conclusion is  
> that a great many people who try to teach themselves - whether  
> through correspondence courses or other literature - simply do not  
> spend enough time or spend the time effectively enough to master  
> the skills. And some who do learn a number of skills never develop  
> the underlying conceptual framework on which effective practice  
> must necessarily be based.
>
> Disclaimer: Before Paul Revenko-Jones starts squawking, I must say  
> that - to my knowledge - I never tested a graduate of the Chicago  
> School of Piano Technology, so I can't speak to the quality of  
> their graduates' skills.
>
> OK, now to speak of some attempts at remediation. The PTG and some  
> of its chapters do offer a great many classes by various superb  
> instructors at conventions and special events, some sponsored by  
> manufacturers and suppliers - others non-sponsored. Eric Schandall,  
> Don Mannino, Rick Baldassin, Richard Davenport, David Betts, Roger  
> Jolly are just some of the names that come to mind - people who try  
> to provide that conceptual framework which is so often missing. The  
> problem here is two-fold - information overload and lack of follow- 
> up. It is just very difficult for the average student to completely  
> understand and assimilate all that information in the course of a  
> continuous two-period session. Or whatever time frame is devoted to  
> it at a single event.  And by the time people get home and actually  
> get to try it out for real - some of it has already gotten fuzzy.  
> This is where a residential program would provide some corrective  
> feedback, follow-up, reinforcement - whatever. And the information  
> would be presented - to begin with - in more manageable portions,  
> with opportunities for follow up in between  - not thrown at you  
> all at once, because of the limited time-span of the convention or  
> event. Again, some people are able to come away from some of those  
> convention classes with that lightbulb lit up and thing falling  
> into place - but many do not. As a result I have heard a lot of  
> misconceptions and bowdlerized ideas based on what was taught in  
> those classes - sometimes even misquoting the source.
>
> Just a simple example. Not too long ago someone vehemently  
> disagreed with something I tried to teach, stating that "So-and-so  
> in such and such a class said that letoff affects nothing, so how  
> can you say that aftertouch can be changed by altering letoff" (let  
> me say that I don't recommend this - I just used it as an example  
> of relationships within the action) . Of course, "so-and-so" did  
> not say that "letoff affects nothing". What he said was "nothing  
> affects letoff" (which is true - letoff control is mounted on a  
> rigid rail that never moves with relation to the string no matter  
> what else you do to the action in the course of regulation short of  
> altering action geometry) Which tells me that the person in  
> question misremembered what "so-and-so" taught, and did not truly  
> assimilate the basic relationships within the action that "so-and- 
> so" was trying to convey - just came away with a surface meaning of  
> the words. And I run across stuff like that all the time - in  
> classes and in post-exam interviews.
>
> For the past few years several of us in the PTG have been trying to  
> develop a methodology to convey this knowledge in a more effective  
> manner.  We break the instruction up into more manageable chunks  
> that can be more easily assimilated by students and combine it  
> either with exercises on jigs and models (for the less experienced  
> students) or with actual performance of the procedures - under the  
> supervision of experienced instructors. Some of these classes have  
> been offered at PTG Annual, State and Regional Conventions, some at  
> chapter-sponsored events. I am in the middle of a series of all-day  
> Sunday classes (one per month, three months) for the San Francisco  
> Chapter. They do work, if the students go home and practice what  
> they learn at the classes. Because we do spend a lot of time with  
> each student on an individual basis - making sure that they  
> understand and follow what they have been taught by correcting any  
> observed technical flaws and missteps on the spot. So these classes  
> require a continuous commitment - and we do have people who keep  
> coming back and eventually
> develop good skills. And they are very resource and labor- 
> intensive, and reach a minuscule number of people - compared to the  
> need. And the nominal fees which we charge for these are typically  
> supplemented by PTG or Chapter subsidies. In effect, the many pay  
> to teach the few. At some point aspirants to this profession are  
> going to have to realize that effective instruction requires time  
> and resources - and it can't all be provided by experienced  
> technicians at their own expense...
>
> I do have to say that some of the discussions on the PTG lists  
> (Pianotech, CAUT, ExamPrep) cover some topics quite  
> comprehensively. And provide some of that conceptual framework that  
> I keep mentioning. And often debunk some misconceptions rife in the  
> trade. But again, this is short of personal instruction, where one  
> look, a few words and a simple demonstration can correct many  
> errors and increase speed or effectiveness. And reaches relatively  
> few people. And is episodic in nature. But every little bit helps.
>
> Before someone starts yelping that the PTG Exams are   
> "unrealistically difficult" and "do not reflect real conditions" so  
> how can I judge effectiveness of instruction base on them - that's  
> nonsense. A well trained, confident technician can cope with any  
> situation, as long as he or she understands the basic principles of  
> the instrument and the craft,  has a good grasp of tools and  
> techniques and has developed fluency through repetition. I have  
> seen this again and again. Most recently, a candidate who admitted  
> to me beforehand that he never works on vertical pianos and has  
> never in his life replaced a vertical shank did quite well on the  
> exam, just using his conceptual grasp of the issues involved and  
> overall technical skills. (He did have a brief demonstration of  
> vertical shank replacement the day before the exam). And I have  
> seen similar occurrences before. And the time allowances on the  
> exams are quite generous - again judging by the performance of well- 
> trained technicians (no matter how they were trained) who usually  
> complete the task - and quite well - with about 10-20% of the time  
> still left on the clock. I have seen technicians who accidentally  
> broke a part, repaired it and still completed the task with a good  
> score within the time allowed. If one is fluent in one's craft and  
> has a good understanding of underlying issues, one can operate  
> under all kinds of pressure and unfamiliar circumstances.  If one's  
> training is too narrowly focused merely on following a series of  
> "steps" in specific situations, that is not professional-level  
> training, and people whose training does not go beyond that do have  
> trouble under pressure. And pressure on specific jobs or from  
> specific clients is just as much a part of the profession as  
> anything else...
>
> OK, sorry for some of the rambling here, but I hope some of this  
> stuff gives a somewhat realistic picture of the pitfalls of trying  
> to teach yourself a profession. And they are not insurmountable -  
> all it takes is time and commitment and some good contacts... And  
> if you can see your way to going to school - do it. It will be  
> worth every minute and every penny.
>
> Israel Stein
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