Conrad, Oh, very interesting! I'll check ours and see if it has that sort of thing. I wonder what the "2" is supposed to mean? Do you suppose the M really refers to the model, and not something else? You must be an early bird - it must be like, 5:45 a.m. there... Allen p.s. I have a brother living in Elkader, whose daughter Enid Wright used to study oboe at Luther while she was in high school.) On 9 Feb 2007, at 11:35, Conrad Hoffsommer wrote: > At 10:52 PM 2/8/2007 +0000, you wrote: >> While we're on the subject of plates: I showed this on the Piano >> Forum list, but thought I'd throw it into the mix here for more >> feedback. Below is a Hamburg Model M ca. 1927 in our shop on which >> (according to feedback from the Hamburg factory) the plate was >> miscast "O 170" instead of (as it should read) "M 170". The >> factory had apparently heard of this before. It's 5' 7" or 170 cm, >> so most definitely an M. >> >> Would the model and length designation would be a separate part of >> the pattern in the moulding process? Or is a plate pattern simply >> two large plate-sized pieces, top and bottom? (I don't know much >> about the mechanics of plate casting). I would assume that a >> certain number of plates like this one were produced before the >> goof was noticed and the pattern re-carved. >> >> I'm curious if anyone has ever seen a plate casting flaw as >> fundamental as this on a NY Steinway (or any other model, for that >> matter)? Imagine what the piano might be worth if it were a coin >> or a stamp : ) It's hard to imagine there would be a lot of these >> kinds of plate anomalies floating around - plates seem like >> something so carved in, well... iron! >> >> Sorting out the mystery of this contradictory and confusing plate >> designation has made me more curious about plate casting in >> general. Any observations or insights are welcome. >> >> Allen Wright, RPT >> London, UK > > I said: >> I'll check for the exact configuration tomorrow when I get to >> school, but I think we have one of these Hamburgers here. It has >> "O" 170 in the triangle, but i think that it also has an "M" cast >> into the plate at the horn.(pointy end) >> >> Yes, 170cm is the size. >> Conrad Hoffsommer > > > The one here is serial #249150. Real close to yours, and here is > the designation cast into the plate at the far end. > Somewhere along the line they _did_ get the "M" on the plate, just > not where you can see it w/o opening the lid.(with necessary > removal of pictures/music/lamp, etc.) > > > <MVC-014S.JPG> > > > Conrad Hoffsommer - Keyboard Technician > Luther College, 700 College Dr., Decorah, Iowa 52101-1045 > 1-(563)-387-1204 // Fax 1-(563)-387-1076 > > - Right now, I'm hoping to live until my age matches my golf score, > - Until then, I'll have to be content to have my IQ match my handicap. Allen Wright 6 Clay Court, 219 Long Lane London SE1 4PB United Kingdom 020 7378 8265 0780-688-1325 (mobile) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/20070209/42bb2a56/attachment.html
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