Unlike Cybertuner, Verituner (because of patent restrictions) can't follow results and adjust the overpulls for you. I do adjust the overpull per-centages based on my experience with the type of piano in front of me. Little uprights need the smallest overpull IMO. Steinway Ds the biggest (36% in the high treble). YMMV Andrew Anderson At 02:17 PM 1/22/2007, you wrote: >Then there's the occasional time when the >Verituner suddenly jumped pitch. Measured with >the AccuFork first - about 8¢ flat. Then >measured with the Verituner - about 12¢ flat. >I'm thinking, oh well, maybe the battery in the >AccuFork is bad. First pass of a pitch raise >everything was set for normal, starting raising >pitch with standard overpull. Go back to do the >final pass, and the whole piano is now 4-5¢ >SHARP, even according to the Verituner. Grrrr..... > >Yes, yes, I know. It's pretty accurate on pitch >raises and calculating overpull...when it works. >But still, I don't recall ever doing an aural >pitch raise and having the whole piano end up >that sharp everywhere. It happened twice...at >least I noticed it twice when I thought to check >it with the AccuFork. On return visits to pianos >that I had done last with the VT, I'm noticing >some at A440 in the winter, when they would >normally be a few ¢ flat. Maybe it happened >quite a few times. Makes you wonder. > >And I never could get it to do a decent job on >most lesser consoles and spinets. Too flat in >the bass, double octaves beating 1.5 - 2 bps. >The ear/mind will do good work if we work at >training it. I had to work harder at getting the >VT to make it sound like my ear wanted it. So I >figured if I was going to have to do aural >checks to verify everything (every time!), might as well tune the thing by ear! > >Caveman John (and loving it - ugh) ;-) > >P.S. I'm not mad at anyone who uses an ETD. It just didn't work well for me. > > >Jon Page wrote: >>I'm with Ron K on this. Let the machine set the pitch and then check. >>In the scheme of things, tuning-wise; the order of importance is unisons, >>octaves, intervals (temperament). If your unisons and octaves do not >>sound good then it doesn't matter how well you tuned a temperament. >> >>Don't wear you ears down on intervals and octaves, save them for unisons. >>The decibel level produced while tuning one >>pitch to another is better avoided. >> >>Using an ETD is not like being on auto-pilot. Eye-hand coordination takes >>awareness and then you're right into tuning the unison by ear, not to mention >>octave verification. It's not as though you're >>plugged into your Ipod playing the >>"Mothers of Invention" while your stopping the >>lights or spinner, as cool as that would be :-) >> >>Returning to aural tuning is like anything else >>which you have become out of practice with, >>maybe not as easy as getting back on a bicycle >>but an ETD is a great stress eliminator; >>and that is worth the minor extra effort to re-hone your 'chops' if need be. >> >>But then some folks are into the whole ethereal >>event and wouldn't consider a power tool.
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