aural versus ETD

[Richard Gullion]

I tune with a Sanderson Accu Tuner, but check intervals octaves aurally. I 
do unisons by ear. Seems to work !! Given the lee way according to PTG rules 
of +- cents. I think we are good.


>From: Concert Piano Service <concertpianoservice at planet.nl>
>Reply-To: Pianotech List <pianotech at ptg.org>
>To: Pianotech List <pianotech at ptg.org>
>Subject: aural versus ETD
>Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:27:21 +0100
>
>
>On 22-jan-2007, at 18:21, David Andersen wrote:
>
>>I guess the question I have for all you ETD users is this, and I  would 
>>deeply appreciate honesty here: where is your attention when  you tune a 
>>piano? Do you listen in a focused, calm, attentive,  relaxed way, giving 
>>your self to the world of sound? Or are you "on  automatic," and free to 
>>roam through your thoughts, dreams, and  schemes, putting the bulk of your 
>>attention on the stream of dialog  in your head? I believe it's an 
>>important question, and I hope I  get both honesty and collegiality in the 
>>replies, if any.
>>
>>Happy Monday, kids.  I'm off to work......
>>
>>David Andersen
>>
>
>
>
>And again (this is an old conversation), and with my deepest respect  I do 
>not agree.
>I have tuned an incredible amount of piano's with them pinky ears,  and 
>when I did my final concert grand tuning course at Yamaha, it was  the 
>finest tuning I've ever done.
>Why? because the skills were honed to the limit - the limit, but it  took 
>me 2 hours to reach that limit, and I realized immediately that  customers 
>do not want to pay for a 2 hour tuning.
>
>Soon afterwards (we're now talking about the year 2000), I found out  that 
>the Verituner gives me exactly that very tuning, and, without  any stress 
>or fatigue, and within 1 hour. The most difficult  instruments suddenly 
>turned into 'a peace of cake'.
>My best customers, and they are professionals, demand a tuning done  with 
>the VT.
>I tuned at the Concertgebouw in Amsterdam for about 2 years with the  VT 
>and I swear that the instruments there have never sounded so in  tune, 
>finally.
>
>Every now and then I tune aurally and, to my surprise, it is not a  problem 
>at all. All those years of aural tuning pay off, and within 5  minutes I am 
>back to 'natural', and the tuning I make is definitely  good enough, just 
>like before.
>
>So, what I am actually saying, is that it is possible to do both, but  one 
>has to actually do it both ways.
>
>I am now getting slightly older and a little more dented, and I  prefer 
>tuning with as little stress as possible.
>That's what my ETD does for me.
>
>btw, an ETD is a great instrument for learning to tune rock steady  because 
>one can SEE what happens after a major blow.
>Then there is the matter of the unisons : I personally think it is  more 
>important to make beautiful unisons then to make the most  perfect tuning 
>in the world.
>
>and again,
>
>friendly greetings
>from
>André Oorebeek
>
>Antoni van leeuwenhoekweg 15
>1401 VW Bussum
>the Netherlands
>
>tel : 0031 35 6975840
>tel : 0031 652388 008
>
>where music is,
>no harm can be
>
>

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