Do you play piano?

martin cipolla pianodoctor at msn.com
Mon Jun 4 14:57:48 MDT 2007


Can I get an explanation of the II-V7-I trick???


>From: "Tom Servinsky" <tompiano at bellsouth.net>
>Reply-To: Pianotech List <pianotech at ptg.org>
>To: <annie at allthingspiano.com>, "Pianotech List" <pianotech at ptg.org>
>Subject: Re: Do you play piano?
>Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 05:15:00 -0400
>
>I call it the "school of hard-knocks".
>By the way, Shearing's  II-V7-I trick is built around the song "Laura", 
>which utilizes a series of II-V7-I progressions. Shearing had a clever 
>exercise which went through all keys and voiced in the same manner as 
>"Laura". The ninth of the chord was always the leading tone . Very cool, 
>very easy, and especially very workable if one were blind, like George. 
>Talk about a guy who's sensory system more than made up for his lack of 
>eyesight. An extremely brilliant mind...and a heck of a nice guy.
>Tom Servinsky
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Annie Grieshop
>   To: Pianotech List
>   Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 11:31 PM
>   Subject: RE: Do you play piano?
>
>
>   Tom, that's wonderful.  To get pointers from Borge and Shearing -- how 
>cool is that?  I need to go try that progression.
>
>   Educators talk about "syntonic" knowledge -- first-hand, personal, 
>applied knowledge, as opposed to "book learning".  That seems to be what 
>you're describing in the way your previous technical training "clicked" 
>onced you started to play seriously.
>
>   Thanks.
>
>   Annie Grieshop
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org]On 
>Behalf Of Tom Servinsky
>     Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 7:45 PM
>     To: Pianotech List
>     Subject: Re: Do you play piano?
>
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>     I'll take this being able to play issue a step further. It wasn't 
>until I started to develop as a working cocktail pianist that I started to 
>appreciate the full role of the piano technician.
>      Sure, at that point I had already past the RPT and CTE exams, 
>attended most of the manufacture seminars and attended most of the 
>conventions. But it wasn't until I started to play the piano on a much more 
>serious level that things began to click.
>      I noticed myself becoming more frustrated when the action wouldn't 
>respond to a fast piece that I was trying to play. I started to notice that 
>voicing wasn't as even as I thought that it was.  I began to listen to the 
>quality of tone on a much more defined level. I started to be much more 
>critical of what tuning should be. I started to develop another perspective 
>of tuning. And voicing...well I could go on and on with that topic.
>     Like many of you, I have my degree in music performance and education. 
>I still play professionally as a orchestral clarinetist, playing with 
>several orchestras and opera companies. But I didn't study piano as a 
>child, although my parents tried to force it on me.
>       It wasn't until I was teaching in the schools that I started to use 
>the piano on a daily basis. It quickly became my tool of choice during 
>lessons. I was always a good score reader and had a well developed ear so I 
>was able get by faking. Slowly but surely I began to play the piano more 
>and more.  Then I began to become very curious about the workings of the 
>piano and one thing led to another, and soon I was enrolled  piano 
>technology program.
>
>     Fast forward 28 yrs , I have had the good fortune to have worked with 
>many of the great touring pianists.  I have had impromptu lessons with 
>Victor Borge,George Shearing, and many others. I worked with  Victor Borge 
>over  a 15 yr period when he was in Florida. He would force me to play some 
>Debussy for him while he listened to the piano in the auditorium. Instead 
>of finding fault in the piano, he would start criticizing my playing. When 
>he realized that I was more or less self-taught pianist, he started to 
>lighten up on me and started to give me constructive pointers..
>      George Shearing showed me the art of "closed" voicing with a very 
>cool  II-V7-I progression in all keys. What an eye-opener! Slowly I started 
>to pay close attention to the technique and approach of the touring 
>artists. Through osmosis I started develop a decent quality to my play.
>
>     My advise to young technicians who don't play the piano, learn. It's 
>never to late.
>     You'll discover that it's good for your business.
>     It broadens your knowledge of why we do what we do.
>     Most of all, it's good for the soul.
>     Isn't that one of things we are to be promoting to our clients?
>     Tom Servinsky
>     ----- Original Message -----
>       From: piannaman at aol.com
>       To: pianotech at ptg.org
>       Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 5:09 PM
>       Subject: Re: Do you play piano?
>
>
>       Good post, Tom.  I agree with you that we don't have to play well to 
>be a great tech, but playing enhances one's appreciation of the work we do 
>for a living.  And I'll add that being a technician has enhanced my ability 
>to listen to others I'm playing music with.
>
>       Dave Stahl
>
>
>
>         Not that you need to be fine player in order to achieve high 
>levels of technical ability. But rather,developing a reasonable or advance 
>level of playing ability can benefit you in gaining a greater appreciation 
>and understanding of the finer aspects of fine tuning, regulation, and 
>voicing. For me, it's broadens your understanding and empathy for the role 
>we play for the pianists, our customers.
>         Tom Servinsky
>         ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregor _" 
><karlkaputt at hotmail.com>
>         To: <pianotech at ptg.org>
>         Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 7:17 AM
>         Subject: RE: Do you play piano?
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>         > >From: "Elwood Doss"
>         >
>         > Is not being able to play well a handicap? I don't
>         >>think it is for me. As far as I know, I've had no dissatisfied
>         >>customers.
>         >
>         >
>         > You don´t have to play well. It´s enough to be able to play 
>one or two > songs. Perhaps it´s not a necessity but it´s a huge 
>advantage. I remember > situations when I regulated a piano and thought to 
>have done everything > correct. But playing that instrument showed me that 
>there is something > going wrong which I never would have noticed without 
>playing.
>         >
>         > Gregor
>
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>       Dave Stahl, RPT
>
>       Dave Stahl Piano Service
>       650-224-3560
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>       http://dstahlpiano.net/
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>       -----Original Message-----
>       From: Tom Servinsky
>       To: Pianotech List
>       Sent: Sun, 3 Jun 2007 7:15 am
>       Subject: Re: Do you play piano?
>
>
>       Not that you need to be fine player in order to achieve high levels 
>of technical ability. But rather,developing a reasonable or advance level 
>of playing ability can benefit you in gaining a greater appreciation and 
>understanding of the finer aspects of fine tuning, regulation, and voicing. 
>For me, it's broadens your understanding and empathy for the role we play 
>for the pianists, our customers.
>       Tom Servinsky
>       ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregor _" 
><karlkaputt at hotmail.com>
>       To: <pianotech at ptg.org>
>       Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 7:17 AM
>       Subject: RE: Do you play piano?
>
>       > >From: "Elwood Doss"
>       >
>       > Is not being able to play well a handicap? I don't
>       >>think it is for me. As far as I know, I've had no dissatisfied
>       >>customers.
>       >
>       >
>       > You don´t have to play well. It´s enough to be able to play one 
>or two > songs. Perhaps it´s not a necessity but it´s a huge advantage. I 
>remember > situations when I regulated a piano and thought to have done 
>everything > correct. But playing that instrument showed me that there is 
>something > going wrong which I never would have noticed without playing.
>       >
>       > Gregor
>       >
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