Hi Wayne BTW. I wasn't trying to be smart or insensitive in my prior posts. Wether I sell a piano or rebuild one I am in the same spot as you are if the client isn't happy with the voicing. In fact I have on several occasions, at my expense changed hammers or traveled some distance to rectify voicing/other issues rather than cross swords with a client. I want em happy ASAP. I have also recommended hammer transplants in some pianos as new as 2 years old.ie.Kawai,Yamaha Samick ,Schafers,Baldwins. I mean the factories are sometimes applying defective hammers. It happens. In the past I've done the heroic methods to create sound but if it doesn't work it doesn't . I am keenly aware of the conditions of hammers & there densities due to hard knocks/experience. I'm at a place where I just have a little less patience for diddling with a boat that's sinking. Might as well swim & bail. That's all Hope it works out.....quickly Dale No, the piano is not POS. We have been selling pianos from China for about 10 years and have bought from different factories. At first we had pianos from 1 factory that were POS but this piano and others from 2 other factories are better quality. Just this one seem to have problems with the hammers. I will not tell my customer through the thing out, the piano was bought as an anniversary present by her husband from our store. I just trying to make things right for this customer, if necessary we may have to change hammers or give her another piano. I 'm trying fix the problem before we have to go to that route. Wayne Wayne Walker Piano Tuner / Technician Musicstop Acoustic Piano Service 264 Herring Cove Road Halifax, NS, Canada B3P 1M1 902-221-1540 902-496-0041 Fax _www.musicstop.com_ (http://www.musicstop.com/) -----Original Message----- From: Joy McNabb [mailto:joyfmb at msn.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 10:25 AM To: Pianotech List Subject: Re: Steam treating hard hammers Is the Chinese piano a PSO? I am having to play on a Hallet-Davis new baby grand that sounds like a piece of junk-won't hold a tune and I don't even think voicing will help this POS. Through the thing out!!! Joy McNabb ----- Original Message ----- From: _Barbara Richmond_ (mailto:piano57 at insightbb.com) To: _Pianotech List_ (mailto:pianotech at ptg.org) Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 8:17 PM Subject: Re: Steam treating hard hammers Hi Wayne, Hmm. Is this a grand or an upright? What are the accoustics in the room like? I haven't worked on any Chinese pianos. (What?! How could that be?) Did you just treat the crown, or did you work on the shoulders, too? Sorry, since I haven't worked on any of these I can only think in general terms of voicing, so I'm just guessing. What type of needling did you do? Needles, shallow and perpendicular to the crown?--or taking longer stitches under the string groves? Anyway, on hard pressed hammers, just taking a swipe at the crown probably isn't going to give lasting or satisfactory results. It would be best to soften the shoulders, too--it will broaden the tone--by increasing resiliency of the hammer/increasing the sustain. Did you try vise-grips on the shoulders? Squeeze enough to make the hammer felt cup a bit and then needle out the cup. I hope something here helps. Barbara Richmond, RPT living a protected life near Peoria, IL ----- Original Message ----- From: _Wayne Walker_ (mailto:wayne.w at musicstop.com) To: _pianotech at ptg.org_ (mailto:pianotech at ptg.org) Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 2:34 PM Subject: Steam treating hard hammers I have a customer with a newer Chinese piano with harsh sounding hammers. I have tried chemical softener, needled and the piano still sounds bad. The customer has chemical sensitivity so I can't use anything in her home now. I was there a couple of weeks ago and used the steam method on the hammers and it work great. I was happy and the customer was happy, but today she left a voice mail saying the piano is harsh sounding again. How long will the steam method last? Will I need to do this often? I just want to have a happy customer with out having to swap pianos with her. Wayne Wayne Walker Piano Tuner / Technician Musicstop Acoustic Piano Service 264 Herring Cove Road Halifax, NS, Canada B3P 1M1 902-221-1540 902-496-0041 Fax _www.musicstop.com_ (http://www.musicstop.com/) ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/20070615/997f23af/attachment.html
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