back from K.C., too

[Mike Spalding]

Tom,

Sorry to hear your experience was not up to expectations.  Yes, it can 
be a crap shoot.  When you find yourself in an inappropriate class, I 
guess you've got to decide whether to a) get up and leave and look for 
something better, or b)stay and learn how the other half lives, even if 
you don't ever expect to live that way yourself.  There are things you 
can do to improve your odds.  Ask about the instructors, find out their 
background and what kind of business they have.  Knowing that David 
Snyder is a 2nd generation rebuilder / shop rat would tell you his 
veneer repair class might not be about in-home finish touch-up.  After 
the first day or so, find someone who has taken the class you're 
considering and find out what they thought of it.  Or search out the 
instructor yourself and ask what the emphasis is going to be.  There are 
some instructors whose classes I will always attend, regardless of 
topic, because they are such good instructors.    One last thought:  Did 
you attend David Andersen's class?  If it had focused narrowly on the 
published topic "whole tone open string tuning" it would have been a 
disappointment.  Mr. Andersen is all about gratitude for life, love of 
friends and family, and a quest for excellence, and his class was truly 
inspiring (even for machine tuners).  Thank you David, and thank you to 
ALL the instructors who give so much of themselves to this enterprise.

just my 2c

Mike

Tom Sivak wrote:
> List
>  
> Everyone seemed to have a great time at the convention but me!  I know 
> that choosing your classes can be a crapshoot, but it was more crap 
> than shoot for me. 
>  
> Seems like many of the classes I attended were inappropriately titled 
> or labeled in degree of difficulty. (All the classes are labeled 
> either E for Everyone, B for Basic, I for Intermediate, A for 
> Advanced, etc.)
>  
> For instance, a class called "MOVE IT" detailed piano moving 
> techniques.  OK.  I'd like to learn more about moving a piano.   
> Course decription as follows:
>     "Discover basic tools and skills that will allow you to move 
> pianos easily in your shop or from place to place."
>   
> Great!  I'd love to be able to move a piano more easily in my shop, OR 
> from place to place!  And, the course is labled (B) for basic, so 
> that's me!  SIgn me up!
>  
> Well, maybe the class should have been entitled, "WATCH US MOVE IT", 
> because it was about this guy's moving company, his 2 and a half ton 
> pickup, his trailer and equipment, and his henchmen who actually do 
> the moving.  I've seen professionals move pianos.  I have paid them 
> many times to do so.  Now, I got to sit for 45 minutes and watch 
> slides of them doing it. 
>
> To be fair, there was one tip on lifting a vertical piano with a car 
> jack that is evidently very hard to find, since some of my classmates 
> had already tried locating one.
>  
> Then there was tthe class entitled, "BRIDGE AND SOUNDBOARD REPAIR WITH 
> EPOXY".  OK.  I've used epoxy to repair bridges, but not a 
> soundboard.  I'd like to learn about this!
>  
> Well, after an hour of bridge repair discussion, someone asked, "Are 
> we going to talk about soundboards, too?"  The reply, "Well, they 
> renamed the class on me.  It's really about bridges."  Then he spent 
> about 90 seconds talking about epoxying soundboards, then back to bridges.
>  
> Or "Veneer Repair" that was all about a vaccuum pump that the 
> instructor made all by himself.  He showed us where we could order the 
> parts for the vaccuum pump and how we could build a vaccuum 
> pump ourselves, and how to use the vaccuum pump.  And for a 
> professional cabinet refinsher, I could see that this vacuum pump 
> would come in handy.   We watched his process on restoring a century 
> old S&S 'D' with an art case.  (He used the vaccuum pump ALOT!)  But 
> in terms of learning anything that I personally could use, in a 
> client's home, for instance, very little was offered. 
>  
> I did have some good classes, too.  But, I shouldn't even say it that 
> way.  The above classes were undoubtedly "good classes", but just not 
> for me.  If I had never epoxied a bridge before, I would have learned 
> from a master how he does it.  And I will change the way I do it, 
> based on his discussion of the topic. 
>  
> And I picked up a couple of real bargains at the exhibit hall.  (A 
> digital micrometer for $42!  No more squinting!)
>
> It just seemed like the majority of the classes I took were 
> disappointing to me.  Again, I fully expected to sit through some 
> classes that didn't give me what I wanted, but this is the first time 
> that I wasted entire days sitting in classes that offered me nothing.
>  
> Sorry for the brutal honesty, but discussion is what this list is all 
> about.  Without an opposing viewpoint, what is there to discuss?
>
> Tom Sivak
> Chicago
>  
>
> */J Patrick Draine <jpdraine at gmail.com>/* wrote:
>
>     Hello list,
>     Saturday before last (June 16) I left home (Billerica, MA) for the
>     "Piano Technicans Guild Promoting Piano Service Excellence 50th
>     Anniversary 1957 - 2007" (that's what it says on my champagne flute)
>     aka the 2007 Annual PTG Council and Institute, and after skipping
>     today's Sunday morning classes in order to catch a 7:55 AM flight, I
>     am home again.
>     It was a most excellent event!
>     Aside from the political activities (appropriate for that other list,
>     ptg-l), there were many opportunities to learn (and relearn) myriad
>     aspects of our craft(s), renew and make new friendships and industry
>     contacts, tempt onself with (and succumb to a few) tool purchases,
>     expensive meals and drinks (and some moderately priced, and some
>     comped at manufacturers' receptions), etc.
>     Thanks to one & all -- to mention a few in random order, the tuning
>     examiners supertuning and administering exams just below my room, the
>     PTG Home Office staff, the Institute Team (Malinda Powell, Mel Brooks,
>     Ward Guthrie, Jeff Hickey et al.), the moving team, and the many
>     excellent instructors (hats off to Roger J., Jon P., Dave A., Mike K.,
>     Debra Cyr, Wally Brooks, for starters but I got up too early, fading
>     fast, so I'll leave it to others to express their own reflections!)
>     And of course, great to see many of the pianotech gang (John F., John
>     R., Cy S., Ron N., and the rest of ya).
>     Many thanks to all,
>     Patrick Draine
>
>