Steinway action noise

John Delacour JD at Pianomaker.co.uk
Sat Nov 17 02:21:15 MST 2007


At 08:19 -0500 16/11/07, Jon Page wrote:

>Looking at my parts, there is a Hamburg flange with the drop screw
>about 2 mm proximally located.  In your photo, the red leaching of the
>dye into the shank around the bushing says Renner.
>My NY S&S shanks have a bushing with a white center not all red.
>Some Renner flanges (if I'm not mistaken) have the center about 1 mm
>more distal.

Here is a clear picture of the shank and flange currently supplied by 
Renner for the _New_York_action.  The distance from centre to middle 
of roller core is advertised as 16.2mm. (Abel does 16mm.).  The 
standard measurement, and that used for the Hamburg shanks, is 17mm.



Compare this with Greg's picture and you will notice not only a 
difference in the wood used for the core but an apparently quite 
marked difference in the position of the drop screw even allowing for 
parallax.  The quality of the buckskin is also different.



And here is the new Renner shank and flange lined up with the 
original NY Steinway S part.  There is almost 2mm difference in the 
disrance from the roller core to the flange profile.  In other words 
everything is moved inboard nearly 2 mm.  What do do?  The simplest 
solution is probably to pack the lever rail with card along the top 
of the screws and pack the near edge of the hammer rail to force the 
flanges back as far as possible -- note that the profile has a wider 
central section than the original, so some adjustment is possible 
without cutting away the far side of the flange.  One way or another 
it is possible to reduce the error to manageable proportions, and 
I've seen some pretty extreme fixes of the kind on Steinway's own 
work.  Nevertheless Renner need to be told that their dimensions are 
wrong.  And a fat lot of difference that is likely to make!



JD

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