Hey Joe. Hmm.... I have to believe the non-speaking lengths are going to get excited anyways. As far as the basic cause for false beats, I've come to the conclusion that its clearly more complicated then the bridge-pin being loose. Too much that simply doesnt add up... to many things you can do to influence the false beat that dont have anything to do with the pin itself... like this bit about coating the string with some fluid for example. And for that matter... too many clearly loose bridge pins that dont have a corresponding false beat. Curious that you mention false beats in the braided area tho. I've been paying pretty close attention to false beat occurance in the lower areas of the scale and it seems to me that they (this classic <<respond to the screwdriver trick>> type of false beat) are present really everywhere. But they seem to have a rather limited apparent frequency range. Aurally in anycase, they always seem to sound like they are happening at that 2000 Hz + range. In the bass you can sort them out of the aural mesh of overtones and lower bass frequencies if you listen closely enough... but they are most definitely there. And they respond to all the same kinds of tricks. Cheers RicB Hi Ric, Thinking. about transverse and liniar sound waves and the energy that is present to excite the back scale segments of the string and other back string segments of notes not being played. Causing them to sound in with the struck string. Like ghosting. Just an observation, I have never heard a false beat in the sections that have braiding of the back scale that could not be lessened by seating the string. My thought here, is loose bridge pins, are the cause. But if one braids off the section one also kills projection and sustain of the piano. Joe Goss RPT Mother Goose Tools
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