[pianotech] free piano moves

[Greg Newell]

John,
	We move grands up flights of stairs with only 2 guys. Player
uprights come out of basements with only 2 guys. Tall uprights to any floor
you choose. Concert grands a maximum of 5 stairs before we bring in another
helper. The CYA advise is good though. 

Greg Newell
Greg's Piano Forté
www.gregspianoforte.com
216-226-3791 (office)
216-470-8634 (mobile)

-----Original Message-----
From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf
Of John Dorr
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 12:29 PM
To: pianotech at ptg.org
Subject: Re: [pianotech] free piano moves


Debra,

A prudent note here: you want to CYOA here, legally, when you pass on any
info 
about piano moves, free or otherwise. Piano movers should have experience
and 
insurance. If you recommend any method or any person(s) for this move that 
does NOT have experience and/or insurance, and the move goes awry... it's 
possible that it could come back to haunt you if the customer is the
litigious 
(sp?) type.

So give any of that advice with caveats and disclaimers and waivers galore!

Having said THAT... avoid the pickup truck route - without really great 
rigging, it's too easy to tip the piano over! A horse trailer makes a 
reasonable substitute for an "official" size and weight piano-move equipped 
trailer because the piano can only tip so far.

Here's a couple of other miscellaneous tips: after moving a bunch of
uprights 
with a bunch of helpers, I'm biased toward TALL guys. Short guys just don't 
have the leverage. And most amateur movers report to me that it takes 4 guys

to move an upright. (experienced movers: only two for ground floor moves, or

up to 4 steps)

If this move involves complete flights of stairs at either end all bets are 
off. Please don't send amateurs! Recommend professionals only. CYOA

Hope this helps.

John Dorr, RPT
Helena, MT

Sender: "Debra Feiger" <debra at ladytuner.com>
Subject: [pianotech] free piano moves
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 19:28:50 -0800
To: pianotech at ptg.org

2nd request for someone to direct me to the thread on ways to have old
pianos moved for free. I recall a few creative posts recently and
need to help a client. Thanks for pointing me to the archive
date/author/etc for these posts!
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Debra Feiger, RPT