Paul, In my view everything you just said is about as dangerous as it can be. Being on the bottom I'd NEVER have my back to the piano. At the very least I want to see what's going on and secondly I want my hands involved for balance and control. The guy on the top should only have something tied around his waist if he wishes to potentially get dragged down the stairs with a runaway piano. Starting the piano on the stairs is easier if you leave the skid on the 4 wheel dolly on approach to the stairs. If 2 of the wheels of the dolly are fixed the piano can tilt on the dolly quite a ways towards the incline of the stairs themselves. This puts the piano quite a ways up without having to lift the tail end up each stair one at a time. We then bring the low end all the way down and lift the tail end enough to remove the dolly. There is a short struggle to get the last little bit of orientation onto the plane of the stairs and then it's just up one at a time. Simple really. The key is to have both parties in full cooperation and understanding of what the other is doing. We move pianos others can't or take a few more guys to do by simply following the ideas from the previous sentence. I've seen more guys either get hurt or damage the item their moving by not working in concert with each other. BTW, there can only be ONE leader on a move, any move. My 2 cents. Greg Newell Greg's Piano Forté www.gregspianoforte.com 216-226-3791 (office) 216-470-8634 (mobile) -----Original Message----- From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of pgmilkie at juno.com Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 7:33 AM To: pianotech at ptg.org Subject: Re: [pianotech] free piano moves It really isn't too bad if you do it like Greg says, one step at a time. When you try to do too much at once you get into trouble and it takes a lot more energy. A big problem is getting the piano started on the steps. You have to lift the top end of the skid for several steps until the entire skid finally makes onto the step Excellent advice Dean, I would like to add that the man on top or in front of the piano have a rope around his back with the ends tided to the left and right handles of the skid board. As you go up one step at a time you can lean your whole body weight into pulling while your arms pull up so the skid slides over the next step. The man in back can have his back to the piano using his legs to push one step at a time. Paul Milkie ____________________________________________________________ Take a break - you deserve it. Click here to find a great vacation. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw2gGUsJNdfb2YmM3N25V1L3pgIo ou0dHYJqLGkrnjXxzIdBQ/
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