[pianotech] RPT Credibility and "Status"

[Shawn Brock]

Ed,

this brings to mind a question.  I know of a technician in the western U.S 
who passes out the guild pamphlets and has a PTG logo on his card.  How ever 
he has never been a member of the guild and has no plans to become one. 
What if anything can the PTG do about this.  I know its probably a subject 
that is more appropriate for one of our other mailing lists, but it seems to 
me that a little discussion is not going to kill anyone.  It is a disgrace 
for any member of the PTG who has abided by the policies we have in place. 
When I first became a member they had just put into place that associates 
couldn't use the guild logo anymore.  At first I was a little tiffed about 
that but I got over it.  So it really sticks in my craw when non RPTs don't 
obey the same rules as I was supposed to.  I had no access to the invoices, 
patches or anything that had the PTG on it, but some how people who are not 
members get a hold of this stuff and misuse it.  I still think we should 
have a logo that the piano dealers could display.  All of our dealers here 
in Cincinnati are members of the PTG, that is one of the good things I can 
say about all of them.  Even though membership to them is just politics at 
least they are members.

Regards,
Shawn Brock, RPT
513-316-0563
www.shawnbrock.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ed Sutton" <ed440 at mindspring.com>
To: <pianotech at ptg.org>
Cc: <barbcassaday at ptg.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 7:41 AM
Subject: Re: [pianotech] RPT Credibility and "Status"


> Duaine Hechler:
>
> On your web site http://www.hechlerpianoandorgan.com/aboutme.html you have 
> the Piano Technicians Guild logo, with no indication of your membership 
> status. You are not a member of PTG, by your own testimony.
>
> This is dishonest and illegal, and shows you don't respect the rules of 
> the organization.
>
> PTG members are incredibly generous in sharing knowledge, experience and 
> skills, and in helping Associates who want to learn to become good 
> technicians. Playing by the rules is how you earn our trust and respect. 
> You are not playing by the rules.
>
> Ed Sutton
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Duaine & Laura Hechler" <dahechler at charter.net>
> To: <pianotech at ptg.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:11 AM
> Subject: Re: [pianotech] RPT Credibility and "Status"
>
>
>> So, what you are saying that if I can't tune aurally then I should not
>> be tuning at all.
>>
>> If that's the case, you are about to start a major war between each
>> tuner's opinion.
>>
>> Again, you mention peers, sure most of my peers in this area have tuned
>> aurally - to pass the test - but they have all switched to tuning with
>> some form of ETD.
>>
>> Again, you mention clients - I don't know where you are and who you tune
>> for BUT none of my clients have EVER asked if I could tune aurally.
>>
>> This argument is getting so &*&^% old !!!!
>>
>> Duaine
>>
>> William Monroe wrote:
>>> No Duaine,
>>>
>>> People like you should be excluded from RPT precisely because (your
>>> description, mind you) you can't tune aurally and have no
>>> understanding of the basic tuning concepts e.g. intervals, beats,
>>> checks, etc.  RPT is a designation that is defined in part by
>>> affirming to ones peers, clients, etc that one can tune aurally - at
>>> least to some measured degree, even with an ETD.
>> <snip>
>>>
>>> Good luck in your growth.
>>>
>>> William R. Monroe
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>