The length and quality of the sustain phase is clearly complex but I think it breaks down into three areas: soundboard, string, hammer. The manner in which the soundboard first captures energy from the string and the rate at which it dissipates it is fixed by the nature of the assembly itself in terms of both stiffness and mass. In simple terms, the stiffer the assembly or the more mass it has the greater the amount of energy required to move it but the longer it takes to dissipate the energy. The amount of energy that can be stored and made available for transduction to the soundboard is a function of tension and mass of the string. The manner in which the string is set into motion influences the way that the string divides, the amount of energy lost by virtue of initial chaos in the attack phase and the point in the phase that all the divisions become consonant, achieve their maximum amplitude as well as the amplitude itself. All we can really influence in the voicing or toning process is the manner in which the string is set into motion, the initial loss of energy in the chaos phase, the point in development when the chaos is turned into divisional consonance and the distribution or strength of the harmonics. So hammer manipulation is certainly not without consequence but whether it actually influences the length of sustain I'm not convinced. The quality of the sound especially in the beginning development phase is what we hope to effect and that certainly can change our perception of the quality of the sustain phase. The absolute endpoint of the sustain I don't think really changes with any manipulation of the hammer since at that point of low energy input it is the soundboard itself combined with the string's ability to store energy that is responsible for when things come to rest. That's how I view it anyway. I'm sure there's a better and probably more accurate scientific explanation. >From a perceptual viewpoint there is also the issue of what I've heard Del Fandrich refer to as "usable sustain" meaning the sustain that we actually hear musically as opposed to what might be measurable. The usable sustain might well be considered in two ways: first, the ability for the system (string and soundboard assembly) to store energy and the rate of decay; and second, the shape of the decay curve itself. While the first factor is not influenced by the hammer the second is and the shape of the decay curve certainly can influence our perception of the usable sustain. The swell effect when you lift the damper comes, in my view, from the growing sympathetic excitement of the strings that have been freed from damper constraint. David Love www.davidlovepianos.com -----Original Message----- From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of John Delacour Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 7:25 AM To: pianotech at ptg.org Subject: Re: [pianotech] Sustain At 08:29 -0500 31/12/08, Marcel Carey wrote: >I'll risk my 2¢ here. I don't think it's only an impression of more >power that you get with voicing. I think that proper hammer voicing >can really increase the amount of energy that goes into the string >and soundboard system. Here is My reasoning... I won't speculate as to the reasons, much though I'd like to understand them, but I agree that it is not simply an aural illusion. Sustain can be measured in seconds from measured blow to silence, so it's easy enough to put any fantasies to rest. In the case I mentioned there was most definitely a considerable increase. There are also pianos, usually very good ones, which exhibit a swell in the volume just after the attack and then a smooth decay. I'd like to know what happens here as well, and there are rather rare pianos which exhibit a marked swell if the dampers are lifted after a held chord is played. At 19:31 -0800 30/12/08, David Ilvedson wrote: >A little more explanation of what you did...? Nothing very different from what I normally do. We all have our own special ways of toning and a lot too much mystique is built up about the technique of toning. Anyone can jab needles into hammers but not everyone can hear, as a recent thread has demonstrated. In toning one needs to be able to identify and focus on any part of the tonal spectrum in isolation or in combination. I always use a single needle and most of the groundwork is done with a stabbing action with the hammer heads supported on a little rosewood tray. As the work progresses I also use a squeezing or pushing action, which I use exclusively for the una corda toning. As to the crown, I work with a fine 3M Fre-cut 618 paper and a polished steel rod. I never jab needle into the crown. JD
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