Right, there's another clue! How could you even mic all those pianos so that they sound exactly the same; same ambience, same tone, same volume. One million dollars still says the sound is dubbed in. Tom Sivak Chicago --- David Ilvedson <ilvey at sbcglobal.net> wrote: > When was that made? Did the technology exist to > match the pianist's hands to the sound...or was > Victor simply making sure he hit the notes in time > with the piped in music? Another clue would be the > lack of differences from one piano to the next if > over-dubbed.... > > David Ilvedson, RPT > Pacifica, CA 94044 > > ----- Original message > ---------------------------------------- > From: "Tom Sivak" <tvaktvak at sbcglobal.net> > To: "Pianotech List" <pianotech at ptg.org> > Received: 3/15/2008 8:06:35 AM > Subject: RE: OT Victor Borge - the Piano Tuner > (Israel) > > > >Israel > > >I did in fact meet Victor Borge once, on Michigan > >Avenue in Chicago. He really was a hero of mine > when > >I was growing up. I was thrilled to see him > standing > >on the corner with an associate and I just wanted > to > >tell him that I had been watching him and enjoying > his > >antics since I was a child. And, being a > professional > >pianist at that time in my life, I had some piano > >music with me, and I thought I'd have him autograph > >one of my pieces of music. Perhaps a > conversation, > >just pianist to pianist, might ensue! > > >Unfortunately, he was brusque, nearly rude to me. > I > >handed him the piece of music to sign; you'd think > he > >might say. He took it, signed it, and walked away > >from me before I could get a word out. > > >Now, that's not why I am certain that the sound was > >dubbed in. > > >Even Chico Marx's piano work in the films was > dubbed > >in later. At least with Chico, he did actually > play > >everything you see in the film and performed his > >routines live. But if you look closely enough, you > >can see him hit a crack that is not heard in the > audio > >track; other things vary slightly, either in > timing > >or in the actual notes you hear versus what you > see. > >It was dubbed in later, just to make it perfect. > > >But this Victor Borge video clip, as entertaining > as > >it is, is pure fraud. There's no way that what > you're > >hearing was produced at the same time as what you > see. > > The million dollar offer still stands. > > >Tom Sivak > >Chicago > > >--- Israel Stein <custos3 at comcast.net> wrote: > > >> > >> > > >> >Subject: RE: OT Victor Borge - the Piano Tuner > >> >Message: 2 > >> > > >> >Don > >> > > >> >It was the last two pianos at the far end of the > >> room > >> >from the camera that led me to believe it was > >> dubbed > >> >in. He sat at the piano on the right and > reached > >> >behind to play octave A's on the piano behind > him > >> at > >> >the end of each phrase. > >> > > >> >No one, not Victor Borge, not Horowitz, could > reach > >> >blindly behind himself and strike octave A's > >> cleanly, > >> >twice in a row. I don't care how much he > >> practiced, > >> >unless he has eyes in the back of his head, that > >> was > >> >dubbed in. > >> > > >> >The rest of it also looked dubbed in to me. The > >> >cavalier way in which he'd strike the chords as > he > >> >went from piano to piano. There was no care at > the > >> >last moment to strike the right keys. It was > all > >> for > >> >show. > >> > >> Tom, > >> > >> Have you ever met Victor Borge in person? Did you > >> ever spend any time > >> around him? He cultivated that "off-hand" manner. > At > >> the piano, > >> backstage, out and about - his public persona was > an > >> endless > >> progression of off-hand gags, one after the > other. I > >> wouldn't bet the > >> mortgage if I were you - never mind $1,000,000. > >> > >> Israel Stein > >> > >> >I'd bet a million dollars on it. > >> > > >> >Tom Sivak > >> >Chicago > >> >--- Don Mannino <donmannino at ca.rr.com> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> >
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