I have a used Audio Dynamics sound level meter that I'm getting ready to sell. It's a little older model but works well. Rich ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Ilvedson" <ilvey at sbcglobal.net> To: <pianotech at ptg.org> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 5:52 PM Subject: RE: for those on the fence about hearing protection.. >I think the db gauge would be a way to quantify pounding. I'm planing >looking at Radio Shack for a price. I'm with you on the fortissimo blow. >Another to consider is the futile attempt to stabilize and piano after a >big pitch raise. You can't do it. All you can do is get some semblance >of stability and pounding the hell out of it won't help. > Concert work shouldn't be dealing with pitch change or the piano isn't > getting tuned well or enough. I'm making changes in the 1 cent range with > my concert instruments. > I don't pound and they stay in tune and I don't put unnecessary wear and > tear on the piano or me. > > David Ilvedson, RPT > Pacifica, CA 94044 > > ----- Original message ---------------------------------------- > From: "Richard Brekne" <ricb at pianostemmer.no> > To: pianotech at ptg.org > Received: 3/26/2008 2:30:33 PM > Subject: for those on the fence about hearing protection.. > > >>Hi JF > >>I almost decided to drop a comment along the lines of <<define >>pounding>>, but then several of the more enthusiastic pro-pounding posts >>have included comments along the lines of providing near nuclear blasts >>to the keys... :) Ok thats an over statement but when folks mention its >>not too hard until you start breaking things, and that if you dont beat >>it into tuning the pianist will beat it out of tuning then I kinda get >>the idea one is talking about a fairly severe blow... something in the >>neighborhood of an ffff+ thing I supose. I seldom get above simple >>fortisimo... that is to say a single solitary f. My tunings hold up >>extremely well. And I am a long ways from the only tuner I am aware of >>who has very stable tunings and does not bang away with heavy test blows >>or in any sense of the word use test blows to bang the thing into tune. >>The various pounding tools I've seen demonstrated on occasion just plain >>scare me... but to each their own. > >>All this said... I suppose it would be a good idea to somehow quantify >>exactly how hard each of us hits when these discussions come up...as in >>some kind of pounds quantity. In the end tho..... you can indeed tune >>with very quite blows and end up with very stable results if you just >>develop your hand, arm and wrist technique appropriately. I can do it, >>and I've seen it done by more then a few others. > >>Cheers >>RicB > > >> Al and Ric, >> We probably have different definitions of "pounding." > >> There was a tuner in the area that *every* strike was about as loud >> as my >> normal test blow (90-100 dB). Then his test blows were even louder >> than his >> normal, which were louder than my test blow. > >> It's probably all in the definition. I'm not a pounder by my friend's >> definition, or by my own definition. I might be by yours. And as I >> said >> early on in this discussion, I'm always open to learning different >> ways of >> stabilization. (Like using a hammer shank, which I brought up a >> few years >> back. It works, but it's more cumbersome.) > >> -- >> JF >
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