John: Thanks for the reply! I guess I can't help myself. I do like a challenge. And, I don't "occasionally go there for a visit". Tuning a well scaled piano is the exception, not the rule. (The pianos around here are greatly out numbered by the silos. ;-) ) And as you said before, "But it all begins with the proper foundation; i.e., the bearing or temperament." I know that when the beat rate of the M3s have the correct jump across a break, everything else will be straight forward. I think it is worth the effort to analyse (I hate the spelling of that word...) the break in a challenging scale. One easy answer to the 3:2 5th vs 6:4 5th question is to just use 4ths instead, by tuning an octave up or down when needed. Of course the 5ths should be listened too also, but can be used as checks rather than tuning intervals. I find that the "color" of the 5ths is easier for me to hear (and I believe is more discerning) than a beat rate. On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 9:24 PM, John Formsma <formsma at gmail.com> wrote: > Jeff, > My first thought is that you shouldn't develop an extensive tuning theory > on scale-challenged pianos. Yes, we have to do them, and try to make them > sound OK. But while we must occasionally go there for a visit, it's not a > place where we want to stay long. :-) > > My advice would be to develop your ears to hear the 3:2 partials on the P5. > Let the 6:4 partials fall where they may. If you must modify the P5 at the > 3:2 level because of the 6:4 partials, it's all something we should be able > to do, and accommodate the rest of the tuning to it.. > > -- > JF > > -- Regards, Jeff Deutschle Please address replies to the List. Do not E-mail me privately. Thank You. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://ptg.org/pipermail/pianotech_ptg.org/attachments/20081110/9343f689/attachment.html
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