Hi Paul; Thanks for the reply to: What lubricants to use for Conway Boston & Co. 1909/10, full size, upright. The piano is an heirloom and specified in their will as a keeper being the first piano the family owned when immigranting from Scandinavian. Strings are rusty only where the liquids where spilled on them (C5 and above) have removed with 'string eraser' for removing rust from strings, have cleaned all the bridges & pins. Piano is actually in fairly good tune considering little to no play/use: A4 @ 440, C5 and above a little out from rust, dirty bridges, piano has poor string scaling anyway. I have told them it will never sound all that great, is not worth putting much money into it but 'family will' specify's to preserve. I am at least glad that the tuning pins are still tight and the piano does hold tune as well as a piano of that grade can, at least it makes it somewhat worth my time. Average annual humidity in this area is 17-21%. Your question on RPT, I follow family tradition being a piano tech becuase this is my family's occupation for three generations; I am not RPT'd with Piano Tech Guild, yes, prices are going way up next year, appreciate you thoughtfulness there. Kindly Annalee Smith ________________________________ From: "pianotech-request at ptg.org" <pianotech-request at ptg.org> To: pianotech at ptg.org Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:35:30 PM Subject: pianotech Digest, Vol 1, Issue 33 Send pianotech mailing list submissions to pianotech at ptg.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://ptg.org/mailman/listinfo/pianotech_ptg.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to pianotech-request at ptg.org You can reach the person managing the list at pianotech-owner at ptg.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of pianotech digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Weight of Kawaii (KeyKat88 at aol.com) 2. Re: Weight of Kawaii (Allan Gilreath) 3. Re: Weight of Kawaii (William Monroe) 4. Re: lubricants (Paul T Williams) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 16:03:13 EST From: KeyKat88 at aol.com Subject: [pianotech] Weight of Kawaii To: pianotech at ptg.org Message-ID: <bf3.45733ba6.364df011 at aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Greetings, About how much does a Kawaii 6'-7" grand piano weigh? I don't believe it has an oak case, but it is a light to medium wood, such as cherry. Also thanks for suggestions on reading about getting started in scaling. Websites was informative. Thanks Julia Gottshall **************Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news & more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redir=htt p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000001) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://ptg.org/pipermail/pianotech_ptg.org/attachments/20081113/99b240e7/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 17:09:39 -0500 From: "Allan Gilreath" <allan at allangilreath.com> Subject: Re: [pianotech] Weight of Kawaii To: <pianotech at ptg.org> Message-ID: <1BB2E37F65704C10AF2C7FD3A2C1EA24 at ALLANOFFICE> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Julia, According to the Kawai website, a Kawai RX-5 6'6" weighs 739 lbs. Allan Allan L. Gilreath, RPT Registered Piano Technician Allan Gilreath & Associates, Inc. The Piano Experts PO Box 1133 - Calhoun, GA 30703 405 Belwood Rd., Suite 5 - Calhoun, GA 30701 allan at allangilreath.com - www.allangilreath.com phone 706 602-7667 - fax 706 602-0979 _____ From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of KeyKat88 at aol.com Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 4:03 PM To: pianotech at ptg.org Subject: [pianotech] Weight of Kawaii Greetings, About how much does a Kawaii 6'-7" grand piano weigh? I don't believe it has an oak case, but it is a light to medium wood, such as cherry. Also thanks for suggestions on reading about getting started in scaling. Websites was informative. Thanks Julia Gottshall _____ Get <http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redir=htt p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000001> the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news & more! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://ptg.org/pipermail/pianotech_ptg.org/attachments/20081113/67495f26/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 16:31:30 -0600 From: "William Monroe" <pianotech at a440piano.net> Subject: Re: [pianotech] Weight of Kawaii To: <pianotech at ptg.org> Message-ID: <8DE297E50C3A48C7ADB6431F8C5F5252 at A440> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" And, I'm sure it is not an oak case, either, though the inner rim is probably laminated hardwood of some description. The Cherry or Oak you see is just the surface veneer. William R. Monroe Julia, According to the Kawai website, a Kawai RX-5 6'6" weighs 739 lbs. Allan Allan L. Gilreath, RPT Greetings, About how much does a Kawaii 6'-7" grand piano weigh? I don't believe it has an oak case, but it is a light to medium wood, such as cherry. SNIP Thanks Julia Gottshall -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://ptg.org/pipermail/pianotech_ptg.org/attachments/20081113/8990e599/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 16:35:32 -0600 From: Paul T Williams <pwilliams4 at unlnotes.unl.edu> Subject: Re: [pianotech] lubricants To: pianotech at ptg.org Message-ID: <OF2C2373C3.AA6B8560-ON86257500.0079AAC1-86257500.007C166F at unl.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Catriona! Sounds like they've already spent more that its' worth, I fear! 1/8" grooves tells me the hammers are spent. replacing center pins alone might or might not help with the vertigris, it's the bushings also causing the problems....graphite is a magnet for more gunk to build up... I hope they understand that this piano may be at the end of its' useful life and your work is only going to last for a short time. Is it a "family heirloom" kind of situation? Those are hard to deal with..(ask me how I know this!). How does it tune, or have you tried that yet? You better make sure it's tunable before going any further!! Even at a lower than standard pitch. Where was the pitch when you started on this project? 30 years is a really long time, almost too long on an old piano....But I could be wrong. For lubricants, I would use some protek on the contact points at the V-bar, bridge pins and bass string termination points, but just a micro-dot of it. How much rust exists on the strings/coils, etc? I advise this with much conservative opinion, being very shy of taking on big projects with an old worn out piano!! Also, what does pt stand for? An acronym (spelling anyone?) can only be put at the end of your name if your an RPT! If you're not an RPT, go get your upgrade to RPT. There's plenty of ways to go get tested!! Do it this year. The costs are going way up next year! :>) I hope this helps! Best of luck! Paul T. Williams RPT Piano Technician School of Music 5 Westbrook Bldg. University of Nebraska Lincoln, NE 68588-0100 pwilliams4 at unl.edu Caitriona Ireland <catrionna2001 at yahoo.com> Sent by: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org 11/13/2008 01:32 PM Please respond to pianotech at ptg.org To pianotech at ptg.org cc Subject Re: [pianotech] lubricants What lubricants to use where in reconditioning an upright action in 1909/10 production run Conway Boston & Company full size upright, serial number 16691. The action was extremely dusty almost unplayed for 30 years, before that never much played at all. Hammers have 1/8 grooves have retained most of factory shape, flanges are all not loose, no screws loose, dampers all functional after cleaning thoroughly, damper rod not bent, pedals regulated, spoons and most of action needs regulation. Graphite has been used on much of the action friction points,piano located in a semi-arid area of Western Montana, USA, with mild winters some rain and a little snow sometimes, summers moderate to hot. Piano has remained in same building for most of its life and has been indoors all of its life except for moved from original owners house in current area to present location in same local area. I am cleaning the action thoroughly. The action has had liquids pop, etc., spilled on it in the upper soprano and upper tenor areas, have removed corrosion/verdigris and dust from most of the action now. I have replaced all springs (jack, damper and hammer butt springs, replaced all bridle straps, replaced corroded center pens and felts, renewed felts as much as possible, replaced where absolutely necessary, leathers are only slightly worn. I am currently regulating action, will then lube; also I have repaired and reconditioned keys and key bed with new felt and paper punchings, set height, key dip,leveled keys and regulated lost motion, have yet but will regulate rest of action. The clients don't what to spend a lot reconditioning their piano a wise choice for a Conway Boston & Company upright piano. Sincerely Annalee Smith, PT Katrina -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://ptg.org/pipermail/pianotech_ptg.org/attachments/20081113/41ff46e9/attachment.html> ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ pianotech mailing list pianotech at ptg.org http://ptg.org/mailman/listinfo/pianotech_ptg.org End of pianotech Digest, Vol 1, Issue 33 **************************************** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://ptg.org/pipermail/pianotech_ptg.org/attachments/20081114/49468c90/attachment.html>
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